'65 Cutlass mirror...2 differnet styles?

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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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'65 Cutlass mirror...2 differnet styles?

Ok... I purchased a new '65 Mirror from Fusick and it is not the same one that is on the car now. Did they offer two different styles that year? The mounting holes are in different spots, and the mirror base that is on the car now appears to have never been off the car, due to the paint being nice and new under the gasket seal...
Old Mar 21, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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1965 Mirrors

Are they both remote or non-remote? I've seen those two style on the 1965 and they have a very different appearance. Can you post a photo of it so others with 1965's can compare it to theirs? John
Old Mar 21, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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yes.. I will take pictures tomorrow. The one on the car now all I have is the mounting plate and the stem.. the mirror was broken off when I bought it. It is Non remote..
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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Yes, pics please. Always possible that the car did not come with one and the original owner added it.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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That was my next question... so they didnt come standard with a drivers mirror then?
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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........ they didn't come standard with a drivers mirror then?
Not in '65. My guess is that '68 was the first year they were required.

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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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This is what is on here now....




This is what I purchased..


Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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65 MIRROR

The mirror you got from Fusick is the correct one, it uses a mounting base that is screwed to the door and the mirror attaches with a set screw to the bracket.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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The mount on your car does not look familiar to me at all, I doubt that it is an Olds mirror.
What you bought looks right.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Does anyone have a '65 so I can get measurement on where the original is supposed to be mounted? I would like to get it as close as possible...
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 88 coupe
Not in '65. My guess is that '68 was the first year they were required.

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Well that was interesting to look up. Overall, 1966 was the first year for the standard outside rv mirror.
In '65 it was standard on the Starfire converts and the 98 converts only.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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If someone else doesn't get it for you sooner I can take some pictures with a tape measure late this week. Did your new mirror come with the mounting bracket? John
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Yes it did.. so I am good there. If a previous owner installed that mirror, it must have been done a long time ago.. the paint underneath it looks brand new.
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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Smile Reflections

Besides the factory correct mirror you bought from Fusick, there was another ten or so different styles available from the dealer according to your taste...the base mounted on your car does not however show up in my accessory catalogues pictures from '60 to '67...the '65 GM cat number is 658...also there is a matching right side!!!
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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I'll try to remember to take a picture of the mirror on my car, with a tape measurer tonight and then post. Hope I can remember. :-)
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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My mirror is slightly different from the one on your car and the one you bought. Here are the pics anyway.



I hope it helps in some way.
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Okay....here are the links instead.
http://picasaweb.google.com/mojokes/...68220961621426
http://picasaweb.google.com/mojokes/...68161948499650
http://picasaweb.google.com/mojokes/...68098786490498
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 03:30 AM
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I'm sorry, it may just be me, but Impin', is that a correct mirror? It doesn't look like it from what I see.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Impin has the remote mirror.

Id take that broke base off the door and see if the two small holes for the stock mirror mount are there. I had a template for mounting the stock mirror but I cant find it. I have an NOS mirror on mine and the template came in the box with it.
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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The holes are in a different pattern unfortunately.. I can hide them under the new base.. but I feel that mounting the base where the present one is, puts the stock mirror too low.. but I might not have a choice... can you shoot me a picture of your NOS installed mirror straight on?
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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wmachine....i've seen it in a few mags and on a few others. I'll see can find other cars with that same mirror. If it's not, it'll just be one other thing I need to replace.
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 02:09 AM
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Smile Mirrors

Originally Posted by wmachine
I'm sorry, it may just be me, but Impin', is that a correct mirror? It doesn't look like it from what I see.
It looks like one of the dealer available items that is in the accessories cat...ten styles to choose from...
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Mirror is mounted in the middle of the door crease, 4 3/4 inches from the front of the door, 1 3/4 inches up from the door crease.

Youll need the small mount that screws to the door in order to mount the mirror.



Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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1965 Mirror Mounting

Well the more I look at this topic the more complicated it gets! I have two project cars, a 1964 Cutlass and a 1965 442. They both have remote mirrors that I believe are the same as the one Impin has. Then I have three parts cars, one 1964 F85 2 door and one 1965 4 door that have a mirror much like the one TK-65 has. I also have a 1965 4 door parts car with just the mounting bracket. These three brackets are all slightly different, and even the two non-remote mirrors have slightly different bases! So how many different kinds of mirrors could be had on a 1964 or 1965 Cutlass platform??? Yellowstatue, was there really 10 different ones?

Attached are some photos of measurements for the mounting bracket. I have posted several more photos of the different mirrors and bases on my photobucket site. You can view those at: http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...20Oldsmobiles/

P1010659.jpg

P1010660.jpg
This is the only one with the base being angled.

P1010661.jpg

P1010666.jpg

P1010663.jpg

P1010665.jpg

P1010674.jpg

John

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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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Smile Mirrors for the masses

Yes, there were a bunch...under the heading Mirrors-outside/Custom there are eight, but all GM's..so depending on what year item 3 or 6 would be for a Cutlass or a full size...and then under Mirrors-outside General purpose...there are five more styles....and then there are the remotes..'64-'65 F85 PN982395..'64 Olds 33-34-35-38-39 PN982202...this is out of GM cat #658 page 34 & 35..hope this helps add to the confusion
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Wow... what a topic this turned out to be! And the worst part? I love the style of the broken mirror that was on my car... too bad I can't figure out what it was...oh well! Mounting the stock one today...thanks for all the great feedback and pictures...it really helped!
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