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Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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Man, first it was Fiat getting full control of Chrysler, and now this!

What IS the world coming to?!


Beam being acquired by Japan's Suntory

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Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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13.62 BILLION????
That's a LOT of whiskey.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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That is sad. If Jack Daniels is ever acquired, it will be the end. There would be a riot in Lynchburg. They would ruin it. I was just there in November and it is pretty fascinating. I hope that never happens.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Money it's all about money. Not integrity but money.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
Money it's all about money.
What?

It's always about money. Business is about money. Nothing wrong with that. That's how the economy works. No "lack of integrity" about it.

Making money and having integrity are not mutually exclusive concepts.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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Yes but what im getting at is when they made the sale they didn't stop to think what or how loyal beam drinkers would feel which most are or will be probably upset once they find out. Im right there on the business end but if we all agree its about making money then this thread has no valid point. The us. company sold out to the Japanese to make money that's business so if we understand how it goes why is it an outrage if America is about capitalism then as americans why would we be mad if that our system. If anything its a good thing the Japanese see US. businesses as a good investment maybe a sign of things to come .

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Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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let'em buy it all, then just nationalize it all and take it away - like Venezuela and others do.....
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
Im right there on the business end but if we all agree its about making money then this thread has no valid point.
You're right. It doesn't.

The point of the thread is largely tongue-in-cheek.

Budweiser was acquired by a Belgium firm some years ago, and U.S. beer drinkers survived.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:45 PM
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Point taken. I also agree the market will survive otherwise lots of American workers at the beam plant are out of work.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:51 PM
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To me I see things like this and I think its irrelevant . Ok so the Japanese bought jim beam . Ok everyone gets mad lets not drink beam. Then what happens they lay off American workers. Its a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. I think of this along the lines of people who only buy us. made. Its such a waste of effort because if it's on the shelf then it's paid for and if you boycott the carrier then American workers and companies go under. No one wins.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:55 PM
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That is sad. If Jack Daniels is ever acquired, it will be the end. There would be a riot in Lynchburg. They would ruin it. I was just there in November and it is pretty fascinating. I hope that never happens.

Oh your not kidding!!! Jack never gets in trouble for being up on my counter.
Old January 13th, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Oh your not kidding!!! Jack never gets in trouble for being up on my counter.
Ha ha, didn't you just go a few
rounds with him around Christmas time?
Old January 13th, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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Pfffft yes my wife took a round out of me too lol !! With all that freezing rain we had I couldn't out run er in my rubber boots.
Old January 14th, 2014 | 02:19 AM
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That's it me and my 2 brothers are really upset.
Old January 14th, 2014 | 05:50 AM
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To quote Ronald Reagan. " the Japanese know a good investment when the see one".
Old January 14th, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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That's it me and my 2 brothers are really upset.

Lmao... that's sounds like a my 3 sons episode gone wild.
Old January 14th, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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Brother Smith and Brother Wesson...we are going to take the Colt an leave.
Old January 14th, 2014 | 04:05 PM
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Brother Smith and Brother Wesson...we are going to take the Colt an leave.

Lol!!! Whats that 7 on a clip one in the pipe? That will get some attention. That beats my pea shooter coupled with my wifes water balloon!!!

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Old January 14th, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Brother Smith and Brother Wesson...we are going to take the Colt an leave.
Ha ha, I was think'n Daniel and Jack, let's go boys...
Old January 14th, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Ha ha, I was think'n Daniel and Jack, let's go boys...

I'll bring on the weisers for the tactical plans. I may as well bring captn morgan along to help out with our front line. Where going to need more female medics I have a feeling their will be stumbling along the way in. They can also carry spare pea shooters if one drops off !!!
Old January 14th, 2014 | 04:30 PM
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Old January 14th, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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Lmao !!!! Given the hard decisions myself and my fellow CO members gave me to come up with, I could certainly get along with SLHeasy . Oh starting to slurrr my words time for a refill

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Old January 14th, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Wonder if you will now be able to buy Beam Brand Sakai?
Old January 15th, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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I never drink Beam. My bourbon of choice is Weller Antique. 12 years old and 107 proof. Just like sipping mother's milk.
Old January 15th, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Ahh yes Weller has been my choice for as long as I can remember, very smooth!!!
Old January 26th, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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I don't know how big Stromen bread is but it was sold to a Mexican company.
Old January 26th, 2014 | 10:15 PM
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It doesn't matter who owns it, because to be called bourbon, it has to be manufactured in the United States.

<H2>Legal requirements...

Bourbon's legal definition varies somewhat from country to country, but many trade agreements require the name bourbon to be reserved for products made in the United States


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_whiskey
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Old January 26th, 2014 | 10:52 PM
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It's called a global economy, be glad they want to purchase here! As long as the rest of the world wants to buy/be a part of America, we will do well! Imagine if they didn't want to invest here.......that would not be good, we need them all to invest here, if they buy here, they need us to be successful so they can get a return on their investment.
Old January 27th, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Is Suntory a public company? If so, many of us could already own some in mutual funds.
Imagine that, you may be part of the group buying Beam.
Old February 27th, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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you are correct in being upset,but there is no large just american companies. that is the past.like cast iron, most cars,radios, ect all made out of country. i admit im upset the world has changed. i ike my old cars because they remind me of a time before my time when our country was on top. when america ment pride,quality,workmanship,and the economy was good. you could have something besides a dead end job high bills and wanting to scream while at the checkout counter. in 1966 the average fulltime worker made $5967 a full size chevy started at $ 2379. thats less than half. that would be like a impala starting at 18000 today. not 24. but this is what it is.
Old February 28th, 2014 | 04:57 AM
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Hopefully Beam will keep the same people, processes and ingredients; and the final product won't end up being "assembled" in the US...
Old February 28th, 2014 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamic63
in 1966 the average fulltime worker made $5967 a full size chevy started at $ 2379. thats less than half. that would be like a impala starting at 18000 today. not 24. but this is what it is.
Here's data on this from Comerica Bank, which tracks how many weeks of salary it takes for the average family income in a given year to purchase the average new car price that year, going back to 1979. Note that the y-axis is reversed, so number of weeks required decreases as you move up, so the higher the curve on this graph, the better.

What it shows is that auto affordability now is about the same as it was in 1979, and that affordability was worse than it is now through the 1980s and most of the 1990s and has actually gotten steadily better from about 1997 to 2012.


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Old February 28th, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Hopefully Beam will keep the same people, processes and ingredients; and the final product won't end up being "assembled" in the US...
Your quotation marks around assembled and the ellipses seem to indicated that you don't believe that some foreign auto companies' vehicles are actually built in the US, rather, it's some sort of vague marketing trick where two things are bolted together and it's called "assembled in the US."

It actually benefits a company to build 100% near their target market. Using an example, all parts that an Asian car manufacturer makes in Asia not only have to be shipped to the USA at high cost and long lead time, the materials to make them had to be shipped at the same, to the component plant in the first place. Also, the Asian manufacturer is using that capacity to make cars to sell over there, anyway.

It's hard to claim "X is more American than Y" because all companies, US and foreign, make cars in many different countries, with parts from even more. It's also hard to say "this company is more American than this company," because, even if you know where the headquarters is, you don't know who owns the stock, and all auto companies are publicly, internationally traded.

It's much better to buy the best car you can for the best price that best suits your needs, and leave the political crying to the politicians.
Old February 28th, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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it's a sad day indeed. i'm in search of a new favorite bourbon now that **** creek is a foreign brand... japanese kentucky straight bourbon.... that's F'd up!


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