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Old Oct 22, 2015 | 04:58 AM
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Man this just boils my blood and makes me want to yell and cuss. Two kids ran over my dads mail box. My dad is 80 and not in good heath. We just got back from doctors office and was in his house when i heard this loud boom. Went to front door and seen mail box wiped out and black car going down the street with body damage.
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 05:14 AM
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I feel your pain, but in a more visceral way.

A year and a half ago I was on my way home from work on the freeway when I was knocked over on my motorcycle by a car and left for dead on the side of the road. Nobody got the plate number....in the middle of rush hour in 25 mph traffic.
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 12:10 PM
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ahhh nuthin like the friendly 101 during rush or any hour for that matter! 25 hell your were speeding at 25!
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 12:20 PM
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I bet they were playing baseball.
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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my mail box was hit so many times it was like a weekly chore repairing it...finally i moved it next to a telephone pole thinking no one will hit it now...wrong some dope comes down my hill in the winter hits the mailbox and telephone pole goes across the street hits a tree and back across the street and hits the next telephone pole and into the ditch ....that one i didnt feel bad about fixing....the guys truck was totaled, I just had to put up another 4x4 post
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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The kids car is totalled!! My dad built the pole out of 3 inch thick walled pipe L shape. Tore up front fender door and rear clip. Found the car four hours later when i went to reset pole and mount new mail box. I confronted the parents and boy did those kids get a azz chewing!LOL Then parents offered and paid for new mail box. Like i told them it is the GP not about cost. Cost was only $25.00 total. The kids both told my dad they were sorry. Car was a nice Mazda 3 coupe.
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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I'm sure they are sorry. They thought the mailbox post was just a 4x4 on a steel spike.

Let that be a lesson to them: Things are not always as they seem.

Like the guy about 25 years ago, when they had first invented those plastic 55-gallon drum sized traffic cones, to replace the actual 55-gallon drums they used to use in the old days, who would come along the highway every night around the same time and run down the whole row of plastic drums before speeding away. The crew got PO'd and filled one plastic drum with concrete from the ready-mix truck. Guy never came back after that night.

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Old Oct 23, 2015 | 08:50 PM
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Mailboxes are supposed to give by law, otherwise they are illegal to be in the right of way. This goes double for "Retribution Mailboxes" where they swing around and smack your car when you hit them with the bat. Reasonable construction is allowed, but if you set up an anchor point for the Almighty to move your town if He sees fit, and someone hits it and gets injured, even if they're playing baseball, you could be held liable.
Old Oct 23, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
Mailboxes are supposed to give by law, otherwise they are illegal to be in the right of way. This goes double for "Retribution Mailboxes" where they swing around and smack your car when you hit them with the bat. Reasonable construction is allowed, but if you set up an anchor point for the Almighty to move your town if He sees fit, and someone hits it and gets injured, even if they're playing baseball, you could be held liable.
Destroying a mail box is a federal offence. Leaving the scene of a accident is a minor offence by city or county in my state. There was mail in the mail box. I am not making this up the officer told me this when the report was made out. This was a reasonable construction pole. Plows are used, crank shafts,chrome molly cage around the mail box on a steel pole just like a race car!! These are just some styles used in Kansas. I had a car rim mail box Koda at my old residence. I should take some pictures because i know where the cage mail box is and my old car rim mail box stand.Oh i didn't make the car rim mail box it was there when i moved there. I need to see if it is still there this weekend.I think a new thread may be in order pictures of mail boxes and the way they are supported.LOL

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Old Oct 24, 2015 | 03:45 AM
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Mailboxes are supposed to give by law, otherwise they are illegal to be in the right of way.
Explain these..

https://www.google.com/search?q=bric...IVkpaICh1zYgZp
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
Mailboxes are supposed to give by law, otherwise they are illegal to be in the right of way. This goes double for "Retribution Mailboxes" where they swing around and smack your car when you hit them with the bat. Reasonable construction is allowed, but if you set up an anchor point for the Almighty to move your town if He sees fit, and someone hits it and gets injured, even if they're playing baseball, you could be held liable.
All I have to say is , not down here in texas! That sounds like some bullshit to me. Down here we build them out of brick, metal pipe , anything to keep them little f@@ks from hitting it with a bat .you must live in one of those states where you also have to register every car you own every year huh?
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 06:45 AM
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Old Oct 24, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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my favorite
Lansing, c.2005





Lansing MI 2005 Olds V8 Mailbox
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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The regulations are in the AASHTO roadside design guide, chapter 11, which has to do with mailboxes. It's not required for private citizens because it's recommended to use them, not required. Usually the state DOT ties them into funding for public projects, which use things like road signs. So, I suppose it's not illegal, but rather, it's just recommended.

This thread is a good example of Cunningham's Law, along with some general pettiness.

my72olds, I live in Indiana, and have had a car lapsed in registration for multiple years with no penalty for re-registering, so, no, I don't live in one of those states. We also are not a front tag or emissions/safety inspection state, either.
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 01:20 PM
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I would rather have a break away mailbox. I don't want some dipsh*t kid getting killed for doing something we all did when we were young and stupid. Mine's been whacked once in 15 years. Big deal.
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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It is a big deal when you live someplace that this is a common occurrence. It gets kind of expensive, not to mention it's just plain vandalism.

The first time my mailbox got whacked I was so upset, called the police, and they came and the officer couldn't have cared less. He launched into a rant about his mailbox getting bashed and it hit his patrol car which is a federal offence yada yada. He was surprised when I wanted to fill out a report. He said, nothing will come of it. I said, I know that, but if by some chance this ***** gets caught then it's one more event on file with which to hang him. I think I put up 7 boxes over the 5 years I lived in that house. Oddly enough I moved to the other side of the same neighborhood and haven't had one problem in over 10 years.

The last box looked normal but was filled with 300 pounds of concrete. My sole intention was to protect my personal property.
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 04:10 PM
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#firstworldproblems

The city snowplow is the main concern here, they appear to tailor the speed and plow angle to have the most effect. Out in the sticks, when I was a kid, it seemed the vandals always waited until right after the new box was put up, then hit it.

300 lbs mailbox would be a rude surprise and I hope it hits a vandal and not just some poor kid whose mom skidded out of control.

How about a folding/ disappearing mailbox that drops down at night, then pops up before the mail carrier comes by in the daytime?

If only there were a way to deliver mail electronically, like over the interwebs... some sort of "e-lectronic mail" or "e-mail"...
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 05:44 PM
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How about a folding/ disappearing mailbox that drops down at night, then pops up before the mail carrier comes by in the daytime?
I always wanted to make one in the 300# range, with a poured concrete base, but with the box connected to the base with old car springs - that way it'd take out a radiator if hit, but still spring back if struck by the plow.



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If only there were a way to deliver mail electronically, like over the interwebs... some sort of "e-lectronic mail" or "e-mail"...
Yeah, the Post Office really missed out on that one.

Those who have travelled a bit may have noticed that the local post office in most countries is the "PT" or the "PTT" for Post, Telephone, and Telegraph - those countries saw their communications services as vital defense resources, back in the 1800s, and had the government run them. If our PO had seen the writing (typing?) on the wall, they would have branched out into providing internet service, which, these days, truly is as vital as the mails were in the 1700s, and wouldn't be looking at certain death within about ten years.
Yeah, sure, you can joke about the quality of Post Office supplied internet, but the fact is that your letters get there in 2 days no matter what, and so do the thousands of pounds of junk mail, so I'm sure they could handle it, especially if ATT and Time-Warner were competing with them, like FedEX and UPS do now.

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Old Oct 24, 2015 | 06:24 PM
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I've lived in my house here in Hebron for nearly ten years and have vandals take out my neighbors mailboxes on both sides of the fence a couple times leaving mine intact and untouched which feels like I'm being framed.
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Old Oct 24, 2015 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Octania
my favorite
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Lansing MI 2005 Olds V8 Mailbox
LOL now that is a cool picture Chris.

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Old Oct 24, 2015 | 06:47 PM
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Nah, no Moms skidding out of control. The cop that was not helpful that came to my house, though, actually had a good idea. He put his mailbox on a hand truck and when he goes to work in the morning he wheels it out to the curb, and when he comes home in the afternoon he wheels it back into the garage.
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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^^^There you go, problem solved. Nice.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 11:50 AM
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You could also have your mail box next to your door . most people in out town are set up that way.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:13 PM
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You could also have your mail box next to your door . most people in out town are set up that way.
No you can't.

If you have one next to your door already, you can keep it, but if it's off your door for even a day, you need to put one out next to the curb.

It's a national requirement.

If you take your mailbox off to paint your house, and the mailman finds it missing, they will never put mail in it again, ever, as long as you live.

Your tax dollars at work. Or something.

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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Thats weird. when I painted my house i put my mail box on the stairs and we got mail. when i was done i put it back up. Im talking about the mail boxes that screw on the the wall next to the door. I know for a fact my neighbor took his mail box off and did a mail slot on his door. I also remember my uncle changed his years ago. I some how feel some of these stupid laws are not enforced very well.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Thats weird. when I painted my house i put my mail box on the stairs and we got mail. when i was done i put it back up. Im talking about the mail boxes that screw on the the wall next to the door. I know for a fact my neighbor took his mail box off and did a mail slot on his door. I also remember my uncle changed his years ago. I some how feel some of these stupid laws are not enforced very well.
Yes, but you had yours right there on the step. If you had left it inside the house, it would have been all over.

Mostly, it depends on the mailman and whether he's willing to let you slide, but the rules are definite.

Also, old door-slots can stay, but they are not supposed to allow anyone to go from a box to a slot anymore.

I know this because it happened to someone I knew, about 4 years ago.

Pain in the @__.

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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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It seems like changes have to be approved by the local post master. if you have mail theft i think you can plea your case. Im just being creative here.

https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Interesting.

No time for me to check any further now, but the curbside thing seems to be required everywhere now - you'll never see a new house with a mailbox on the house.

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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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I have a good friend who is a home builder i will have to ask him.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:34 PM
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Yeah. It's a new thing.

The route is much faster if the guy doesn't have to walk up everyone's walk and can just roll along in the truck from box to box, so they're trying to eliminate boxes on houses.

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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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I live in an old town and our whole area is done on foot. I asked him and he did say they dont install boxes themselves but that when they build the houses nothing is mentioned to put them on the wall so he assumes that's what the landscapers do before new sod . I wonder what the rules are for modification on older houses then ??????? I guess it comes to what post master agrees too ???? Kind of an intesting subject. I mean what if an elderly person can get their mail ????? im gonna say they might allow such a change due to circumstances possibly.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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I have no idea, but what I have seen has been unforgiving.

Also, in any kind of a development or group of houses, they want the mailboxes to be all together in one big box, rather than at the individual houses.

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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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Thats is true . My parents live in a subdivision and that is whats getting/have been installed.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 06:47 PM
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I am familiar with a city that has mail delivered to the porch on foot. As far as I know, the entire city block structure has no mailboxes. But, I will check the one or two new houses of which I know. It's Terre Haute, IN....new houses don't get built; it's in an economic slide.
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 07:28 PM
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It depends on where you live on the requirements for mailboxes. I've all of the above in Texas.
Old Oct 26, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 09:40 AM
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Mail boxes

I used to have that problem too until I finally came up with the idea to place the box high enough so it can't be reached by drive by vandals. Not only did it stop the vandalism It also stopped unwanted bills!
Old Nov 6, 2015 | 12:18 AM
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Seems to me that the postal service your side of the pond sucks.
I wouldnt dream of having a box outside, surely people can steal your mail if they want?
So much easier having all of that lovely junk mail put through the letterbox in your door.
My dog loves it, I come home to a pile of shredded paper and a guilty looking dog.
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