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If this is true, it will be just another part of bo's plan to convert this country to a muslin society. I would never buy another GM product. Make me have more respect ro FoMoCo. Now I will close before I become political and get tossed off here.
Actually two of the frontrunners on the IPO are Chinese banks, and not that it makes a difference, but is it any different then when the Japenese were buying up all of our real estate in the '80's? Every "American" car company has plants in Mexico and S. America, but those lower wages do not translate into lower priced vehicles for any of us, we just keep gettin' screwed.
I can't comment on the political aspects behind all this but, wow aren't we in a sorry state? The world sure isn't what it used to be, isn't what we grew up in and it is sure uncomfortable. Nobody likes change, least of all myself but it is happening. I just hope the adjustment process won't be too painful.
The US is now getting jobs back because of our low wages. Mercedes was in the news this weekend. Their new plant in one of the southern states has a starting wage of $15.00 per hour. Cheaper than German hourly wages and much cheaper then the Big three's hourly wage. Maybe if we fall far enough we will get manufacturing back to the states
. I can see the news now USA joins the ranks with China and other third world countries as a leading manufacture of cheap goods.


. I can see the news now USA joins the ranks with China and other third world countries as a leading manufacture of cheap goods.

At the risk of turning this thread even more political, all I can say is that this is one of the stupidest articles that I have ever read. No, I did not vote for the current President, but the article is inflammatory and flat wrong.
GM's upcoming IPO is open to all potential global investors. Worry more about the Chinese than the Gulf States. The fact remains that this cash, from whatever source, goes back into the US treasury to replace money given to GM originally. How does that make the investors the beneficiaries of the government investment? Did the US benefit when GM invested in Korean, Japanese, British, and Swedish car companies? What about GM's financial and business ties with China? Keep in mind that China is by far the biggest market for Buicks. I would also suggest that a foreign country with a financial stake in the US is less likely to attack that financial stake.
GM's upcoming IPO is open to all potential global investors. Worry more about the Chinese than the Gulf States. The fact remains that this cash, from whatever source, goes back into the US treasury to replace money given to GM originally. How does that make the investors the beneficiaries of the government investment? Did the US benefit when GM invested in Korean, Japanese, British, and Swedish car companies? What about GM's financial and business ties with China? Keep in mind that China is by far the biggest market for Buicks. I would also suggest that a foreign country with a financial stake in the US is less likely to attack that financial stake.
But this is the two-edged sword. Yes, we bring jobs back to the U.S., but not at wage levels that once existed. There's a great leveling going on. That's globalization. As much as we might not like it, it's inevitable. The best way to raise manufacturing wages in the U.S. is to raise them for the rest of the world, too. That's happening, but slowly.
At the risk of turning this thread even more political, all I can say is that this is one of the stupidest articles that I have ever read. No, I did not vote for the current President, but the article is inflammatory and flat wrong.
GM's upcoming IPO is open to all potential global investors. Worry more about the Chinese than the Gulf States. The fact remains that this cash, from whatever source, goes back into the US treasury to replace money given to GM originally. How does that make the investors the beneficiaries of the government investment? Did the US benefit when GM invested in Korean, Japanese, British, and Swedish car companies? What about GM's financial and business ties with China? Keep in mind that China is by far the biggest market for Buicks. I would also suggest that a foreign country with a financial stake in the US is less likely to attack that financial stake.
GM's upcoming IPO is open to all potential global investors. Worry more about the Chinese than the Gulf States. The fact remains that this cash, from whatever source, goes back into the US treasury to replace money given to GM originally. How does that make the investors the beneficiaries of the government investment? Did the US benefit when GM invested in Korean, Japanese, British, and Swedish car companies? What about GM's financial and business ties with China? Keep in mind that China is by far the biggest market for Buicks. I would also suggest that a foreign country with a financial stake in the US is less likely to attack that financial stake.
I had great luck with my 1995 F-150, with over 321,400 miles (just yard truck due to Maine Tinworms (ie RUST

)), and I am happy with my 1999 Escort ZX2!

Maybe 15K and the fronts were gone. I was not the only one. I haven't driven one since.
Never heard that. Usually when Olds could use their own tranny, I've heard that they used Buick trannys. One thing I've heard, Ford used the Quadrajet on the Mustang one year...1970 I believe...not sure if it was on the 427, 428 or 429.
You're short-changing yourself. The Ford of 20 and 25 years ago bears no resemblance to the Ford of today. The company is totally different. The cars it makes are totally different. I had an '05 Freestyle for 3.5 years and loved it. The company now routinely receives top marks in all areas. I wouldn't use your experiences of so long ago as a reason not to consider a Ford if otherwise they make a vehicle that would be suitable for your needs.

Well after a week with the Fusion I would buy one in a heartbeat. A wonderful driving car and GREAT fuel mileage. It handled well in trafic, and was much nimbler than Blue Belle, and you all know what I mean.

If you need a new car I would consider the Fusion.
--Don

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The HD three speed transmission option was a Dearborn (aka Ford) toploader. This trans was used in the full size cars through about 1970 as the three-on-the-tree option, but it was also the base transmission - with Hurst floor shifter - in the 442s for a lot of years. A-body cars with the three speed column shifter got the GM-sourced Saginaw three speed manual, not the Dearborn.

If only they knew how reliable my old pinto has been...

During my recent trip to Oregon, I was gifted with a Dodge Charger as a rent car. I really liked it, including the looks and style.
It was black, too, so i blended in withthe Oregon State Troopers, too!

However the HI rainbow plates were dead givaways that I was not related...

This is the one new car i really liked - comfy, roomy, good looks, RWD, and the option of a 5.7L.
Only drawback was rearward visability, a problem in all new cars with 5 huge headrests and high butts.


