Anyone know where to find gas cans without all that EPA-mandated vapor emissions crap?

Bought a new Stihl weedeater a couple weeks back and it needed its own gas can, so I bought one of those heinous cans as it was all Lowe's had. I've tried everything I know to pour fuel out of it, read the directions and all and it will not pour out any fuel. I believe I finally broke something on that twist-lock spout messing with it. Wouldn't be quite so bad but the thing cost $14.00, and it's useless.

Went to WalMart last night and all they had are the same thing. Sheetz had some and they were the same.

Friend has a 6-gallon he bought for racing fuel. He says more fuel ends up on him and the ground than in the car. Guy at work says he's gone thru three in the past year and a half.

I ask you my friends- is this really progress?

Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for older style cans at auctions. I know now why people go stupid over them when they show up.

 

The new cans are crap....

 

I added these to my newer plastic fuel containers. Now they flow just like the old jerry cans I had. Poke around ebay and you'll find a few different styles.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-MF-Black-V...item3a969d0f17

 

Garage sales, find the older gas cans.

 

x2, been dealing with those for while here.

 

If you see one lying on the side of the road, pick it up for parts, spout, stopper, collar. If it has a good bottom half, cut it up and use it for a parts washer, scoop, etc. etc.

 

I work for a Stihl dealer. Good choice any day! Go back to your dealer and ask for a no spill stihl gas can, those cans are salty, around $20.00 for a 1 plus gallon.

The can has a push button on the back side of the spout so it should be a one hand operation with out much hassle.


Pat

 

There are lots of ways around these EPA compliant cans. They're a real joke because they cause more spills and ultimately defeat their purpose. Right up there with Cash for Clunkers.
Anyway, there are various ways to retrofit the new cans, google away. Kits are available like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pack-EZ-Po...item33930a76bc but look for "water can" not "gas can". (Wink Wink)
I was simply able to "gut" 2 of the newer spouts and they work fine, especially with an added vent. That all depends on the particular spout.

 

I didn't think to ask about a gas can when I was at the Stihl dealer, and I honestly thought I had an old 1-gallon laying around- which I can't find. So- rather than drive all the way back out to the dealer I figured I'd pick one up somewhere closer.

I took the thing back to Lowe's last night and the kid in lawn and garden said it had a bad spout and they were averaging 25% return rate on those particular cans. He pulled a spout off another can farther back on the shelf and changed it out. Said he thinks what happens is people pull the cans to look at them and mess with the spout without reading how it operates, and bugger it up. I fully expect it to wack up again so I may end up driving out to the dealer for one of those Stihl cans anyway.

Unless of course I can find me old-style flex spout gallon gas can...

 

Watch how this guy ADDS A VENT, not sure how relevant the rest is.

 

That is quite ingenious. I haven't shopped for a gas can in quite a while and was not even aware of those things. I guess another example of our government "protecting" us from ourselves eh?

 

Haven't seen these in canada yet. Might be worth my time to buy up stocks of our older cans and start a black market business.

 

I have 2 of the old style cans with the flexible spout, and I value them (and their caps) highly.

I would like to know the circumstances surrounding the fire that triggered the change in spouts.

We would have to have a shelf in each room, and all around the garage walls, if a child was to come over to our house for any amount of time at all.

 

I don't think it was a fire so much as it's an E P A mandate to eliminate fuel vapors from a gas can getting into the atmosphere.

Reading up, looks like the C A R B boneheads were the first to come up with this requirement back around 2008 and the E P A took it and ran- hey, what's good for Cali is good for the rest of the country, right? yet they can't understand why people are leaving the state in droves because of the regulations and high taxes and cost of living.

I sure hope I find that old gas can. I can guarantee next auction or yard sale I hit, if I find a good one it will come home with me. Like others of you, it had been several years since I'd had to buy a gas can and I was not prepared for this new design BS.

Meantime, the new design looks like a good appliance to deliver a good bonk over the head to a bureaucrat.

 

Amen, I hate the mutters

 

I managed to live in blissful ignorance for a few years of this, as my cans were pre 09. Looked for a new one, and holy Toledo, the BS they put on them now.

Agreed on the water can repair kit. Rural King apparently sells one.

 

Yep even my Simplicity zero turns have a gas tank evap charcoal canisters now.
And all compact tractors 28 horse and above have Tier 4 emissions. All are using DPF or diesel particulate filter. All this for tractors running 50-80 hrs. a year!

And this added 15% to each tractor cost!

Pat