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Old June 20th, 2013, 09:28 PM
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Fun car story, but not an Oldsmobile

A friend at work tells me her father is going to sell the old family home, but needs to get rid of an old car in the garage. It was her brothers, but he was injured back in 1981 and couldn't drive anymore. She tells me that her father thinks it needs too much work to be worth anybody in the family keeping it, but she kinds likes it. She's asking me if I know the value, so she can evaluate if its worth fixing up or not. The car is a 1971 Mercury Cougar convertible that's been stored inside since it was parked in 1981. I start asking questions she doesn't have answer for, so she contacts family where the car is located. Then the details start coming... it has a 429 and a 4 speed transmission. Another car guy at work tells me Fords have a lot of information you can get online with the vin number. So we get that and discover its a plain jane Cougar with a 429 Cobra Jet and ram air! She has a picture and its a real pretty metallic blue with white bucket seats. Parking lot dings, but no big dents, and in a dry part of the country so no cancer type rust. So I'm telling her don't hesitate, buy it from your Dad and enjoy it! As long as there's no major problems with the car its likely to increase in value, so call it a family heirloom, investment, or just a fun toy The only thing that could make this story more fun is if the car were a performance Oldsmobile!

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That car, depending on the vin, can be worth a lot of money or be worth a ton of money. Either way it's a good candidate for a resto.
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Well, for my friends sake I hope its worth a ton of money. It does have the J in the vin, which I believe was the code for 429 CJ ram air. Here's one like it, but fully restored

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If it is a true factory 429 she needs to get it or don't let it go for cheap. This is a car that would be worth putting a lot of cash into, if it needs it.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 07:11 AM
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Nice story John

I love the old cougars and mustangs, a guy at my work restored a 70 and recently brought it to work..... great cars
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Cool story for sure!
It is about time you came out of the Oregon woodwork!!
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Old June 25th, 2013, 06:41 PM
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Yes that Cat is worth BIG BUCKS !!!!
Have her get on www.mercurycougar.net , with the vin and door tag info to make sure this Cougar gets documented with the Cougar Club of America.

I have a decoder book that can break down that Cougar to what it really is.
If you PM me with the VIN and door tag info I'll break it down best I can for you (her).
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Oh yeah, by the way, JEALOUS !!!!!!!!!!
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Great story. It's stories like this that keep me hoping that my ship will come in one day
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I am no expert but my father-in law was telling me just the other day while we were b.s-ing about cars that those engines alone are worth a lot of money. Cool story
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Great story. It's stories like this that keep me hoping that my ship will come in one day
Me too, this one and the 69 hurst thread
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John,
There is an almost complete four door Cutlass for sale on this forum near Eugene - it is calling for you!
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Originally Posted by Lady72nRob71
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There is an almost complete four door Cutlass for sale on this forum near Eugene - it is calling for you!
Hi Rob
That's Slater up in Eugene. I believe he's planning to build a circle track car out of it. But I agree, there's a lot of nice parts on that car. If it were back in the rust belt someone might be restoring it!

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Originally Posted by gearhead1218
Yes that Cat is worth BIG BUCKS !!!!
Have her get on www.mercurycougar.net , with the vin and door tag info to make sure this Cougar gets documented with the Cougar Club of America.

I have a decoder book that can break down that Cougar to what it really is.
If you PM me with the VIN and door tag info I'll break it down best I can for you (her).


Hi John
I have the vin at work, but remember that it has the J in it. The reference I checked said that keyed out the 429 cobra jet with ram air. When my friend gets it to her house I'll take some pictures to share with you guys. I'll get the door tag then too. The pictures I've seen and information I have so far makes me believe its the same as the one listed on the russoandsteel advertizement. She doesn't know much about cars, but is interested in learning. I'll be sure and share the details on the Cougar Club of America with her.
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It's RARE, very few made, there was one at Purestock a couple of years ago, and some of the racers were questioning it's validity....the owner had docs. I believe that it later ended up in one of the musclecar mags.
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http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1971-Mercury-Cougar Only 47 converts. produced. get it appraised and insured!
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J-code 4 speed Standard Vert - 18 made
If it were an XR-7 ---- 5 made.
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J-code 4 speed Standard Vert - 18 made
If it

were an XR-7 ---- 5 made.
That's getting rare!


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Old September 23rd, 2013, 05:36 AM
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My friend got the car shipped down here. It's got a few dents, but no rust. Eastern Washington is really dry and it was garaged since the early 1980's. Here's a few pic's as I'm helping her get it to a restoration shop for evaluation. It's missing the ram air cleaner and has the wrong carb/intake but hopefully the rest of the drivetrain is original.

I've read a few references. They made either 17 or 18 of this setup for car shows and publicity. As I said before, the only thing that would make this better is if it were an Oldsmobile

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How about some interior shots? Although not my favorite year, still a great find.
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pf cool car

histori'a fresca to boot... [cool story]
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Old September 23rd, 2013, 12:23 PM
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So it's a Ford, it's way cool.

I remember this thread...
Nice car, great story.
Thanks for the follow up John.
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That is one rare sleeper, no badges. Owner may want to consider some type of theft insurance before it is roaded or sent to any shop, if possible. Show her how to start research and registration on Merc and Cougar sites. Full info could show it as a one of one when broken down as to colors and options or lack thereof. Was her brother the original owner?
Thanks for the follow-up on a car many would give much to own. (including me) I believe in drivers, but this one maybe a car that turns out to be too valuable, and in its current condition could even pay for a couple of nice drivers.
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My friend had her car restored and today took it to the first car show. It turned out beautiful! Here's a few photos of it. John

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Turned out nice.
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Wow that is nice, beautiful car.
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Great story and what a nice restoration. It is good she came across you John. There are folks out there that would have scammed her since she knew very little about that car. Those of us who have dealt with you know what kind of moral character you are and it was very fortunate for her.
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
Great story and what a nice restoration. It is good she came across you John. There are folks out there that would have scammed her since she knew very little about that car. Those of us who have dealt with you know what kind of moral character you are and it was very fortunate for her.
Thank you for the complement. Its been fun watching her cars restoration and I'm really glad to see how nice it turned out. John
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Wonderful Story!!

I never caught the original thread but was glad to see how it ended up since I'm also a Cougar guy with a 68 that is well known in the Cougar world.
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Awesome car. One thing I noticed on the front shocks is the nuts are not tight enough and the washers are upside down looking at the pic.
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Great story! Good to see another old one, regardless of make, back on the road.
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Awesome car. One thing I noticed on the front shocks is the nuts are not tight enough and the washers are upside down looking at the pic.
Good catch! Maybe hurry-up to get it done for show ? Although,that would make me wonder what else is finger-tight.
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That is a cool story, and an even cooler car! The restoration turned out VERY well!! I hope the lady gets many years of fun and turned heads out of it!!
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All that in 3 short yrs?


Nice save there.
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Awesome car. One thing I noticed on the front shocks is the nuts are not tight enough and the washers are upside down looking at the pic.
Eric,

You may be right, but . . .

On old BMWs (one of our other "habits"), the shock washers are supposed to be installed cupped-side-out --- which surprised me. Could the same be true for some Ford products?

And yes indeed, that is a gorgeous car!

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I believe there were a set of blue ragtops built for the show circuit. Would love to see the Marti Report for it.
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Originally Posted by Diego
I believe there were a set of blue ragtops built for the show circuit. Would love to see the Marti Report for it.
My friend has the Marti report on this car. I wish we had the same for our Oldsmobiles... that would make life much simpler
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See if you can score a pic of the Marti.

Here's the pic of two cars that I believe have promo backgrounds.
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Hi All. Well, just an update on my friends car. She had it restored and took it to car shows for a few summers. But it was in a storage facility with corrugated metal walls. This last September when the fires swept through the valley enough radiant heat transferred through to ignite her car. Super rare car... but its burned so badly it would be just about impossible to restore again. Here's a few photos.








The heat was enough to melt one of the wheels off.

Didn't realize how much dust was on my camera lens. This was facing into the sun, where the dash used to be.
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Damn, that's a shame. Hopefully she had good ins. on it. That 429 would probably run again. I took a 350 out of a 76 Cutlass that was about in the same shape.
Changed a few gaskets along with a used intake, carb and valve covers, dropped it in a 79 Chevy pickup back in the day. Starter was still good too. Rooma zoom zoom.
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Ughthats terrible john. Tell your friend sorry thathappened. Hopefully she was able toget away w out injury. In the end its only a car, albeit recently restored and rare too.

ugh may need to edit the thread title now
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