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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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1972 Hurst Olds Indy Pace Car Convertible for sale

1972 Hurst Olds Convertible for sale I have a 1972 Hurst Olds convertable for sale. It runs great and is currently being stored in Lake Ozark Missouri. We have lots of the original paperwork. We are asking $30,000 neg... for the car. We are getting ready to bring the car back to Kansas City this fall to make it easier buyers to see. We don't spend any time at the lake in the winter.
My father purchased this car over 30 years ago but has since passed on.
We do not drive the car very often and have decided not to restore it.
Photos and cowl plated are pictured below.
We would like to sell it before the end of the year.

kuridge@att.net

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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 07:53 AM
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PM sent.
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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post pix!
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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price and location
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Interested. Let's see what you have.

Thanks
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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I really hate to be so darn jaded...but doesn't this sound like a scam. If I am wrong I truly apologize.
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 05:44 PM
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Pictures of 72 Hurst Olds

Finally figured out how to post some pictures.
The car has had the decals removed and was resprayed over 7 years ago.
My father became ill during the process and the car never was finished on the outside. He also painted the wheels white, don't ask me why. The spare is still gold. The engine transmission and rear end were rebuilt 6 years ago. The only thing on the car that is not original is the intake manifold. When the carb was rebuilt the shop said a new manifold (new technology) would perform better. We kept the old one thought.
The interior seat and carpets are all original.
We are asking $30.000 put have some wiggle room.
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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A couple of more photos

Here are a few more photos. These were taken at my moms lake house.
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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last photo

Here is the dealer plate
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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Is this a dealer conversion? I thought the cowl tag had to have W45 on it
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Yeah, agreed, it's gotta have W45 in the trim tag, else it's just not a "real" hurst olds.



The Fisher plant put that W45 or W46 code onto the tags for the cars that were ordered for HO production, usually something around March/April of 1972.

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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony72Cutlass'S'
Yeah, agreed, it's gotta have W45 in the trim tag, else it's just not a "real" hurst olds.



The Fisher plant put that W45 or W46 code onto the tags for the cars that were ordered for HO production, usually something around March/April of 1972.
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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Cowl tag.

Interesting. I have had two people who restore these confirm the vin and cowl numbers as being a Hurst Olds.
We have the original bill of sale and the dealer paperwork as well. We are the second owners. I attached a shot of the car taken about 25 years ago.
I guess I will confirm soon enough. I have had 15 responses form this site.
Will be meeting with someone this weekend to go over the car. Interesting article below regarding cowl tags.

http://www.hurstolds.com/numbers/numbers_28.pdf

An example of a 1969 H/O cowl tag
reads as follows:
Body by Fisher
ST 69 33687LAN 340175 BDY
TR 930 50 50 PNT
O3E
Decodes as:
ST 69 1969 model year
3
Oldsmobile
3687
Cutlass V8
Holiday Coupe
LAN Lansing plant
340175 BDY Body sequential
#
TR 930 Trim, bucket seats
50 50 PNT White paint upper
& lower body
03E Build date 3
rd
month (March), 5

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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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Cool information,

There's enough guys on here with hurst Olds, maybe they can chime in on their cowl tags.

Also it seems that the hurst olds in that Article was from 69, not sure if anything changed or not for 72.
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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The VIN cannot confirm that it is a Hurst.
Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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All H/O's have the rally-pack gauges too. This car does not have that option. Nice car, but like allyolds68 said, a dealer conversion.
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonator666
All H/O's have the rally-pack gauges too. This car does not have that option. Nice car, but like allyolds68 said, a dealer conversion.
From the literature on Wild About Cars/Auto History Preservation Society websites, it seems the Rally Pac gauges were not a required option on the '72 Hurst/Olds.
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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The following link tells how to authenticate - if it were a hurst it would have W30 or W45 in the VIN.

http://www.442.com/oldsfaq/ofhos.htm#HO Authentication
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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Here's one from ebay with the w45 stamping

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsm...063573&vxp=mtr
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Mine is a 72 with w45 on cowl tag without tach.
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Yep, seems to be a dealer post production conversion, must have a W45 on the cowl tag, see the following....

http://www.hurstolds.com/numbers/numbers_10.pdf
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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1972 hurst olds

I dont know if you remember me but I tried to by your car 5 to 6 years ago. Give me a call still would love to buy thanks Ron
Old Oct 10, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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if it were a hurst it would have W30 or W45 in the VIN
This is not accurate, you cannot tell by the vin for any year H/O that it is one, the information is not there.
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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All 629 1972 pace cars had W45 or W46 stamped on the cowl tag. Last paragraph in this pdf file. http://www.hurstolds.com/numbers/numbers_10.pdf
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GAOldsman
All 629 1972 pace cars had W45 or W46 stamped on the cowl tag.[/url]
Please forgive my ignorance on this one, but why did they make so many of them?

Was it to make instant collectables, or were the cars used at other race tracks around the country, besides Indy?
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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Actually 629 is fairly rare. If you read the pdf, it showed that article that was "printed in Hot Rod Magazine in May, 1972. The article
indicates the high desire for these cars and the
low limit of the factory production numbers
encouraged individuals, body shops and dealers
to make their own."
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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OK - so they were intended as collectables from the get-go, and not needed as actual pace cars.

That May 1972 Hot Rod Magazine is easily available on ebay for around 10 bucks.

According to this link below, there is an article entitled "Build your own Hurst/Olds Indy Pace Car"

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...hurst-17676451

So it sounds like the evidence is pointing to this (good looking) car most likely being one of those...

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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Did you get your car confirmed? Or is it sold?
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 03:54 AM
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Hi, I just saw the post on your car, is it still for sale?
Old Nov 12, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
This is not accurate, you cannot tell by the vin for any year H/O that it is one, the information is not there.
Actually that is not true. The 1968's can be identified by the vin and where they were delivered too.The 1969's also but about 300 of them have lost vins due to a fire at Demmer engineering. So you would need some hard proof as to originality...
Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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Then let me re-phrase my answer. You cannot tell a H/O by it's vin unless you tie it to the H/O registry. If you were to find an Olds repainted in it's past, and the typical H/O identifiers were missing due to time and previous owners, a look at the VIN would not clue you to the fact that it is a H/O, only that it has a 442 VIN (34477, 34487), then, only by cross referencing the VIN to the H/O registry would you know that it was an H/O.
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Originally Posted by ddd777
That May 1972 Hot Rod Magazine is easily available on ebay for around 10 bucks.

According to this link below, there is an article entitled "Build your own Hurst/Olds Indy Pace Car"

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedi...hurst-17676451

Found a copy super-cheap, scanned the cover and the two pages of the article, and have linked to a PDF (1.4 MB is apparently too big to upload to this site)

Really fun to read through a magazine from 1972 - really takes me back - especially the advertisements.

build-your-own-indy-pace-car.pdf
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ddd777
Found a copy super-cheap, scanned the cover and the two pages of the article, and have linked to a PDF (1.4 MB is apparently too big to upload to this site)

Really fun to read through a magazine from 1972 - really takes me back - especially the advertisements.

build-your-own-indy-pace-car.pdf
Awesome article Thanks for posting
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