For Sale Oldsmobile Delta 88 Oceanmist green/blue, 425 super rocket, 4 door, 56,000 actual miles. Call 612-227-1790 $12,500. Email stellar@usfamily.net for pictures and more information.

 

Seems like it is an awesome car but it wont bring that kind of cash. A 4dr fullsize car with that price has a demand of about zero, sorry to say. I would be surprised if you got 5G's for it but wish you luck with the sale.

 

Um, it is a four door, making it more rare. There are less of them available. It is a beautiful color and the interior is in fantastic shape. I appreciate your input on this though. To me, it is worth that much. I have looked around at other ones, most 2 doors.

 

Rarity is only one factor. Three things determine an old car's value. Rarity, condition, and desirability. Your car may have the first two in its favor, but if the car is not one that people are intrinsically interested in collecting, then it won't command a premium price.

Oldsmaniac is exactly right. There is just not the interest in four-doors as there is in the two-door coupes and convertibles. If rarity alone determined value, than all the four-door Cutlasses out there, of which there are very few, would be worth more than, or at least as much as, the corresponding convertibles and coupes, and that is most certainly not the case.

Oldsmaniac is also right about the value. Price guides put the value of a '66 Delta 88 four-door in "car show" condition (not quite showroom condition) at about $5,000.

Collector Car Market Review puts the value of this car in the $3,000 to $5,000 range. You don't say if yours is a hardtop or a post car as there is a slight difference in value there with the hardtop commanding a bit more money.

http://collectorcarmarket.com/menus/.../66olde88.html

We're not trying to destroy your dreams here. We're just trying to shed a little reality on the situation. I, for one, hope that you get what you're asking for as that raises the value of all of our old Oldsmobiles. Good luck.

 

Thanks for your input. What is a "post" ? It is a hardtop with no post in between the two windows, if that is what you are referring to. My car has black pinstripes and is a very nice specimen. Thanks for your input. I checked values blue book which did not show the value for a four door. Show room condition was $15,000. That is what I was basing it on. And, it only has 56,000 actual miles. Thanks for your thoughts. You obviously know more about it than I. It is a woman's car....maybe??? With one smooth running 425 Super Rocket engine in it. It also has an air conditioner.

 

And THAT is true optimism .

4-Doors are rare because they were all crushed, because nobody wanted them.

You have a hardtop - the doors do not have window frames. That makes it worth a couple hundred dollars more, in most cases.

... Because nobody wants one.

I can guarantee you that your car is not in "show room condition."
It takes a LOT of work and money to transform a car from "really nice" to "show room condition."

If you can find a woman who wants to drive a giant, old, gas-guzzling 4-door, I'll marry her, even if she's ugly (which would make me a bigamist).

Sorry. It sounds like a really nice car, and exactly the sort of car I'd like to buy, if I had the money and extra storage space right now, but if you actually want someone to buy it, you'll have to recalibrate your pricing.

- Eric

 

Exactly. It is a four-door with no pillar between the front and rear windows. The term is actually short for "hardtop convertible," if that makes any sense. The idea is that the car looks like a convertible in that it has no center pillar. But it's not a convertible because it has a "hard" top in contrast to the soft top of a convertible. Some manufacturers would even go so far as to put fake "ribs" in the roof to mimic the look of a convertible.

For example, check out the roof on this '64 Dynamic 88 two-door hardtop. They're a little difficult to see, but you can make out some "ribs" across the roof just above the back window. From a distance, it's easy to mistake the car for a convertible.




How about some photos of this beast? It sounds like a very nice car.

What source is this? NADA? Many sellers quote the NADA value, but NADA values tend to be significantly higher than the other price guides. The fact that your source did not mention values for four-doors should tell you something about their popularity with collectors.

Low mileage is good, and this attests in a positive way to its condition, but, like I said, condition is only one factor in determining value.

Not true. Just going by what I read. It's not uncommon for people to assume that, because their car is rare, it will automatically be worth a lot of money.

Remember, your car was not rare, relatively speaking, when it was new. Production of four-door 1966 Delta 88s, whether they were hardtops or sedans, totaled 63,466. Production of two-door hardtops (the only 2-door non-convertible available that year) was only 20,857, which is less than one-third of the four-doors. But you'll find many more two-doors than four-doors around today. That attests to the relative popularity of the two styles.

I wouldn't say this. It's more a "family" vehicle. I'm sure four-doors were much more often purchased by people expecting to carry several passengers (i.e., kids) at a time, and rear doors make back seat access much easier.

 

Wow, great breakdown/analysis of a posters comments...for once I have nothing to sayMy hat is off to you gents...

Ted

 

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That's a beauty, not a beast! The previous posters are correct but nothing wrong with advertising it at $10k negotiable and working your way down from there in all reality. For someone looking for these cars, they probably won't find a better example. Good luck on the sale!

 

Very nice! X2, good- luck with the sale!

Ted

 

It's beautiful, and it's worth every penny of the $5,000 you'll end up getting for it.

 

Very nice car.

And sadly, I agree with Jaunty.

- Eric

 

Don't be sad. Most people who agree with me are sad about it. That's why hardly anybody ever does.

 

Well jaunty, I agree with you on this one, and I am the happiest guy in the world.....so I guess that blows your theory all to heck!

Ted

 

I said hardly anybody agrees with me. Those who do, do so at their own risk.

Welcome aboard. You'll find the air up here rarefied and refreshing.

 

Rarefied? That would be my FOUR door 1966 Oceanmist Olds Delta 88. If someone loves it enough, like they should if they are going to own it, maybe I will get what it is truly worth, $10,000. It is much more fun to drive then, say, a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee, which is worth about $10,000. Much prettier too! ((-; And.....then, there is that 425 Super Rocket engine that purrs like a kitten, very smooth.

 

Go for it, man! Where are you advertising it? More than just in this thread, I hope. Put it on craigslist, get in on Hemmings, etc. There are many online sites for selling collector cars. Who knows. Maybe you'll find the guy for whom money is only a secondary consideration and who owned one just like it new and wants to relive his youth.

 

I had it on craigs list once and got no replies at all. This is the first car site I have put it on. I will list it on other sites soon though. Nice chatting. I wish I would have found this site a long time ago. How nice to be able to connect with others who really like or have Oldsmobiles!! It is great seeing photos of them all too! Thanks for all the input I got from everyone! Much appreciated.

 

And you were asking $10,000?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

Wasn't there a thread on here some time ago about people putting cars on Craigslist and incrementally increasing the prices as time passed and they failed to sell?

It's a beautiful car. Good luck selling it, but I suspect the lowdown truth of the matter is that you really want to keep it. Just admit it and keep the car . You know you want to.

- Eric

 

Explain? Why would anyone increase the price of a car too SELL it!? Is it not the other way around?
Yup, Olds fans , we all have trouble selling them....I know I do....

 

What source is this? NADA? Many sellers quote the NADA value, but NADA values tend to be significantly higher than the other price guides. The fact that your source did not mention values for four-doors should tell you something about their popularity with collectors.

I was surprised to hear this. I always thought NADA was the more reasonable one and Kelly Blue book was the highest. What site do you guys use to get some more accurate values?

 

I subscribe to the Old Cars Report Price Guide.

http://report.oldcarsweekly.com/

It comes out about four times per year and had been around for many years. They do not post their values online (otherwise, why would anyone subscribe?).


Another source that IS online is Collector Car Market Review.

http://www.collectorcarmarket.com/

Click on "pricing" at the top and then make your various selections to drill down to your exact made, model, and body style. These values tend to parallel pretty closely the Old Cars values, and both are well below the NADA values.



Finally, be careful in your use of the term "accurate" in describing the values in these or any price guides. There's lots of debate on this site about the value of price guides, and I understand the complaints against them. Many people offer the useless bromide "a car is only worth what someone will pay you for it" if you post on here asking what price you might set on a car you're trying to sell or what would be a reasonable price for a car you might be interested in buying. Of course, what they say is true, but that advice is worthless to someone looking to buy or sell a car and needing to know something about where the market is in order to establish an asking price if they're selling or if an asking price for a car they're interested in is reasonable. Therefore, I think the price guides do have value.

 

Well, that's what nobody could figure out, but it was pointed out in the thread that often, if you follow a given car on Craigslist for a while, the asking price will keep going up as the car continues not to sell.

Mysterious.

- Eric

 

Thanks for those links.....very helpful...I have been looking for value "guidelines"....

Ted

 

http://collectorcarmarket.com/menus/.../66olde88.html

^ guide puts the value of a nice (between #2-3) 66 Delta 4dr hardtop at somewhere around $4-5K. Sound familiar?

 

Welcome to the site! I agree with the other guys. A couple years ago I purchased a 1967 Cutlass 4 door with 47,000 original miles on it for $2,500. The paint is bad due to the sun, but the interior was really clean. I've been using it as a daily driver and enjoying it. Recently I came across this 1967 Olds 98 that is for sale at $3,000 here and on Craigslist but so far no bites. So keeping it and enjoying driving it, or slowly dropping the price until someone steps up to buy it might be your best options.


Here's a link to the purchase of my 1967 daily driver
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...d-me-home.html


Then here's a link to the 1967 Olds 98
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...rn-oregon.html

 

You posted the same link twice. Both take you to the Cutlass discussion.

 

YIKES! That rusty thing with no engine or anything else for that matter, after you spend $15,000 on it, or more, or years of personal time and elbow grease, you might have a car you can drive....mine is nice already, with a few minor flaws that are general maintenance items, like you have with any other vehicle. Mine looks just like a 2-door, sleek and sporty, but it has an extra handle on each side. Really does not make it look any less attractive, and you don't have to crawl over a seat to get into the back. My friend has a 1960's Jaguar that is a four door he got in England. I think it is just as cool and sporty looking......GREAT CHATTING WITH YOU ALL AND GETTING SOME REALISTIC VIEWPOINTS. I had been asking male friends who said they really had no idea about it and to ask some classic car buffs....

 

You have a beautiful car and I hope someone buys it to save an enjoy. Finding just the right person so you can get the best price may be difficult. You might try ebay as that could have the largest audience. John

 

I believe the photo in John's sig. file is a tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact that he tends to bring home strays.
If you look at the links he posted, you will see the very nice car he was referring to in his post.

The point has been made here, in the nicest and most diplomatic way that we can make it, that even though your car is very nice (and we all agree that it is), your idea of an asking price is about double what it's worth.

Let's not get too fantastic here.
Your car looks nothing like a 2-door, aside from the fact that both are cars and have similar body lines.
A 1966 Delta is neither sleek nor sporty - not now, and not when it was new. In fact, when this car was new, it was pretty much the antithesis of sleek and sporty, qualities that would have applied to the Porsche 911 that came out that year, or maybe to the Mustang.

Nobody here has criticized your car in any way.
We have simply pointed out the objective facts that your car is a four-door, and that four-doors are substantially less valuable than two-doors, and have provided you with documentary evidence of the fact, as well.

From this, I would infer that you are female.

Had we known this at the outset, this bunch of "gentlemanly" (read: "chauvinistic") men would probably have adopted a more patient style, as most of us would assume that certain things that should be obvious to those with Y-chromosomes (such as that four-doors ain't worth squat), might not be obvious to those without. I apologize if we took a tone with you that was inappropriately harsh.

Good luck finding the right buyer. As John said, you might try eBay, as they seem to be good at generating inflated sales prices (though actually getting to the point where money changes hands seems to be a sticking point with them).

- Eric

 

Well said Eric

 

Thank you, L-T.

 

"From this, I would infer that you are female.

Had we known this at the outset, this bunch of "gentlemanly" (read: "chauvinistic") men would probably have adopted a more patient style, as most of us would assume that certain things that should be obvious to those with Y-chromosomes (such as that four-doors ain't worth squat), might not be obvious to those without. I apologize if we took a tone with you that was inappropriately harsh.

Good luck finding the right buyer. As John said, you might try eBay, as they seem to be good at generating inflated sales prices (though actually getting to the point where money changes hands seems to be a sticking point with them).

- Eric"
Hmmm, you were not being originally harsh and I appreciated the comments. Now, however, you are starting to sound a tad sarcastic. My car was previously owned by two different men. My Dad and I love going to look at classic car shows together. I like classic vehicles as much as any guy. Perhaps sometimes for different reasons, such as the classic vehicle lines, smooth ride and the chrome (nothing to do with chrome-zones X or Y) ((-; Like I said, thanks for your input. Doesn't matter if I am female or male either sweets. I notice your vehicle is "pink." Mine on the other hand is more blu, ocean blu that is. It was nice to chat with some owners of classic Oldsmobiles and getting the input. Thanks again.

 

You like blu also, I see.

 

6,500 posts and counting, and every one of them sarcastic.

Nothing personal - I am serious that we tend to be more patient toward women. Whether you see that as gentlemanly or condescending depends on your perspective, but it is definitely true.

Didn't mean to offend you.

And you should see how PINK my car is in person!

- Eric

 

If we didn't otherwise know you were female, the fact that you spell "blue" as "blu" would be a dead giveaway. Tell me, if you could, would you dot your i's with a heart or a circle and a smiley face? As I understand it, girls are prone to that, too.

 

I hope from the heavens above, you ARE joking........please say you are

 

I think it goes without saying.