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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 06:05 AM
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Cool 1964 442 for sale (not mine)

Interesting description and asking price, worthy of some discussions….

https://nh.craigslist.org/cto/d/ches...824716661.html
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 07:08 AM
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$8,500.00 maybe. Guys living in a fantasy world!!! $85,000.00 good luck!!!
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 07:16 AM
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It seems that I have heard of the seller's name before but I cannot place where it was, Vincent Vacca.
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Giftman23
worthy of some discussions….
Not really. The seller has Barrett Jackson syndrome.
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 09:29 AM
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"Transmission 4 speed manual on the floor , it is has the police package with sway bars , last. One sold in 2009 at BARRETT Jackson's , lot #64 , for 365,000"

Interesting usage of the word "last". And I am assuming someone misremembered the actual price and added a zero.

In any case here is a "last one" that sold in 2019 with selling price.




Interesting find Giftman23.
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 10:00 AM
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For any prospective buyers out there. That are not familiar with pricing, please do your homework.

There is not just a one source answer. You need multiple sources to formulate a decent opinion. Check ebay completed sales, but keep in mind did the car actual change hands with a new buyer. Check completed sales on multiple auction platforms. Word of mouth. And value placers.

I've been into the car game for 40 years, J.D. Power and Associates is rock solid in my honest opinion when it comes to muscle era Oldsmobile's. But that is still no guarantee you will see those prices in the real world...


Old Feb 8, 2025 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 69CSHC
In any case here is a "last one" that sold in 2019 with selling price.

Isn't that BJ car the notorious Faux-Four-Two with the Oct 1963 build date and the unsubstantiated "pilot car" fairy tale?
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Not really. The seller has Barrett Jackson syndrome.
Wait, an “all original” 64 F85 442 with gobs of handwritten documentation and a title issued in sept of 24 not to mention a Barrett Jackson reference and an ask of 85k warrants no discussions? Ha ha ha
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 04:50 PM
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Interesting placement of the decklid 4-4-2 emblem.

Old Feb 8, 2025 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Isn't that BJ car the notorious Faux-Four-Two with the Oct 1963 build date and the unsubstantiated "pilot car" fairy tale?
Jeez, I forgot to mention the danger of buying fakes.

Interesting Joe, it's my understanding that the 64 442 was a rush job. Just on those terms alone a pilot car makes very little sense.
Old Feb 8, 2025 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldsguy
It seems that I have heard of the seller's name before but I cannot place where it was, Vincent Vacca.
Pulp Fiction.
Old Feb 9, 2025 | 08:16 AM
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Hi,

Didn't think AC was a available option?

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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 11:22 AM
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Hi,

Didn't think AC was a available option?

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Yes, it was available on the 1964 442s. The only cars not available with A/C were the 1968-69 W30s (all transmissions), the 1969 W32, the 1970-71 W30s with MT, and the 1972 W30s (all transmissions)
Old Feb 9, 2025 | 01:20 PM
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One of those cars that needs a close inspection if you gotta have it.
Who knows it could be a great candidate for a serious resto if its solid. This is or has been in the NE moisture for how many years?

If this was a Cali or desert SW dry car... as in zero pinch weld rot with a dusty frame, on a good day 30K.
It should have some history, B09 prominence paperwork, and documented mileage.

I do see the price is now 45K. And the price dropped fast. Maybe it was a typo??? Or he got slammed by emails, lol...

I see wheel well rot. That means, at min, partial quarters, drop offs, outer wells, probably trunk pan.
What does the frame, floors, doors, trunk lip, front dog legs look like up close?
Money shots would put most of this speculation at ease.



Old Feb 9, 2025 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Isn't that BJ car the notorious Faux-Four-Two with the Oct 1963 build date and the unsubstantiated "pilot car" fairy tale?
Yes it is.

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Yes, it was available on the 1964 442s. The only cars not available with A/C were the 1968-69 W30s (all transmissions), the 1969 W32, the 1970-71 W30s with MT, and the 1972 W30s (all transmissions)
Joe I don't think the 66 and 67 W-30s could be had with air either. I believe some W-31s were that way, too, but they weren't 442s. Interestingly, this makes the 68 H/O with A/C the only car that had to hop the compressor with the OAI hose.
Old Feb 9, 2025 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
I believe some W-31s were that way, too ...
I don't think any W-31's were available with A/C.
Old Feb 9, 2025 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
I don't think any W-31's were available with A/C.
The question was about 442s, not Cutlii.

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Joe I don't think the 66 and 67 W-30s could be had with air either. I believe some W-31s were that way, too, but they weren't 442s. Interestingly, this makes the 68 H/O with A/C the only car that had to hop the compressor with the OAI hose.
You are correct, and a quick look at a 68 H/O with A/C shows why Olds never offered it on the ducted OAI cars. The hot air adapter under the RH snorkel got the hell beaten out of it by Demmer to clear. Of course, if your reason for buying a W-car was performance, why would you bog it down with heavy A/C?


Old Feb 9, 2025 | 09:04 PM
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Yeah, reminds me of the one in my garage. I deliberately bought an AC car, not so much for the AC, but because I would like to drive it to regional shows and loaf along with those 3.08s. That high compression 455, even with the 3.08 rear, is enough fun, especially with those old polyglas repros. But, like you say, it wasn't intended in GM design. The 67 I will track pack has AC, and it will have some of the same issues, but the hot air system was not there in 67 other than the CCCs.
Old Feb 9, 2025 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The question was about 442s, not Cutlii.
I know. John was actually the one who introduced W-31s into the conversation.
Old Feb 9, 2025 | 11:37 PM
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I DID say they weren't 442s, lawl.
Old Feb 20, 2025 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Giftman23
Interesting description and asking price, worthy of some discussions….

https://nh.craigslist.org/cto/d/ches...824716661.html

yeah, he's smokin rope
Old Jun 24, 2025 | 05:43 PM
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It's coming to Mecum Harrisburg in a month. Still love the emblem placement. What are the dots on the taillights?

1964 Oldsmobile F-85 442 Deluxe Sedan For Sale At Auction - Mecum Auctions

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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 02:39 AM
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I wonder what the reserve is.
Old Jun 25, 2025 | 09:53 AM
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As an option was factory A/C available on a 64 442 ?
Old Jun 25, 2025 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by therobski
As an option was factory A/C available on a 64 442 ?

see #13 above.
Old Jun 25, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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Thanks Tri-Carb...
Old Jun 25, 2025 | 01:08 PM
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This is a gorgeous example with air conditioning: 1964 Oldsmobile F-85 4-4-2 Holiday Coupe | Arizona 2017 | RM Sotheby's. A/C was available, but rare. I believe that "2K-L" denotes air conditioning and floor cutout for 4-speed.
Old Jun 26, 2025 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by F-85 4-4-2
Those are Blue Dots.
Old Jan 31, 2026 | 03:57 PM
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https://nh.craigslist.org/cto/d/hamp...911716441.html

Just in case you feel like you missed out….
Old Jan 31, 2026 | 04:39 PM
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Still looks pretty sketchy at $45K, especially compared to the one in post #17 which went for $38K.
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