http://www.ebay.com/itm/290998602710...84.m1555.l2649

iv been trying to sell this car for months now im way down and still no one will by?

theirs probably at lest a grand in the motor and then 500$ for all the work on the suspension and the body is not that bad? any tips to sell?

thanks

 

Not to put too fine a point on it .. you're somewhat lacking in photo skills.

 

Some pictures of the interior would be nice.Close ups of the Exterior. Great looking car though

 

Photos definitely...less background, more car, a lot more light. Can you find a hubcap for it anywhere? Yes interior, also, lather some amor-all to the plastic pieces, just do a quick detail to 'er. Polish up that chrome. Does it need paint or just a hard buff with compound to work out the damage this Florida sun has done to it or where does it need paint? It doesn't look like it "needs" a paint job from the photos, guess white is kinda hard to tell.

 

There are a bunch of pics on another link in the description and they look fine to me. It could just be that there isn't a big market for big 4 door boats. You are going to have to be patient to find the right buyer. Good luck with the sale.

 

Ok, I looked at your ebay link and also the pictures of the rest of the car/start up video

The following observations are just my opinions:
1. Although it's an antique, it's not really in the 'classic' area of demand or interest to many buyers, especially with today's fuel prices. You need to find the right buyer to get what you want, and that will take some doing. Doesn't matter that it's original and hasn't turned the clock yet.
2. The interior is pretty shabby looking. That's always a turnoff when buyers are looking at cars.
3. Engine work and maintenance are issues you won't recoup any money on, so stating 1500 in engine and mtce? That's about all a serious buyer would likely want to pay for this car in it's current condition. Not sure why you had to do engine work if it only had 75K miles on it. That's a bit of a red flag to a lot of people. Suspension? Again - it's mtce that's expected, not a bonus.
4. Color - the exterior color is not an eye catcher, and painting it would cost more than it's worth just to sell. Plus the rear deck looks like it's got primer on it and missing emblems? I do agree the body looks to be in nice condition.
5. Luxo barges like this look really crappy with blackwall tires, and it's not a highly optioned car-only thing I see is AC. The car has no curb appeal at all.

Sad to say, this car may actually has more value in parts. If you're really trying to sell this car and you've had nothing in months? IMO, the market is telling you something - no interest and the price is too high.

 

You may well get your $3k for just that monster engine tho.

 

X2 the pics on ebay are ok but there is a link w more pics, the description looks fine, price is reasonable.

I'll have to say a small market is the reason

 

same here, I think its a great color and a neat car but it is definitely a tiny market for that car. The 4-door unfortunately makes it even smaller. I think its a fair price from what I can tell.

 

I don't think it will do well on EBay. IMO a lot of people won't travel that far for a car in that price range. CList is a better venue but I'd list it more an an engine than a car. Tell them car comes with it. Selling point is that it a high compression '70 engine and list the block casting # & heads. If you still want to list it as a car get some blankets or sheets in a solid color & cover the seats. They look nasty.
GLWTS.

 

Actually, nice looking car. At $2500, not bad either. The seats are definitely a turn off, but dash and door panels look nice! X2 on the black walls. Is the car white or a baby blue color? Looks blue to me....the market will have to be local, as someone far away wouldn't want to pay to ship, as it would blow any type of deal out of the water. Good luck with the sale!

 

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You're looking at it from the seller's viewpoint. Try looking at it from a buyer's viewpoint:

You've got two markets: A. Oldsmobile enthusiasts. B. Ordinary, low end used car buyers.

Olds enthusiasts are not going to be very enthusiastic about the car. They want hardtops, convertibles and maybe station wagons, not four door cars unless they are really perfect in every way. Yours is not.

Ordinary, every day buyers with severely limited budgets are looking for cheap, dependable and economic cars they hope to get 50-75 k miles out of.
You have to be realistic. You've got an old, heavy, gas hog with a bad interior and an uninspiring exterior that you're trying to pass off on a market with limited funds. Look around in CL and see what else you can get for $2500 that is cleaner and gets better mileage with equal dependability.That is your competition. I can get up into some 2000 and newer models for $2500 and I can get parts for them to keep them running.

Your choices are either keep dropping the price until it sells or put more sweat and dollars into it to overcome the objectionable interior and make sure the things buyers in that price range care about are above criticism. They care about dependability, low maintenance and low operating cost. There isn't much you can do about the latter with the 455 in a very large, heavy car. If it were mine I'd keep dropping the price as putting more money in to make it sell is money you're never going to recover.

ps. I agree, you are using the wrong selling venue. Try CraigsList or local car ad periodicals.

Sorry if I upset you but you asked for opinions on why it wasn't selling and I gave you the unvarnished viewpoint as I see it from a potential buyers perspective.
Jerry

 

The problem is that there is very little market for full size four door cars.

Check completed auctions on ebay and you'll see that they don't sell. This one has been "sold" three times now, and is relisted yet again at $200.

 

If you really want to move that car .. consider throwing on a propane conversion. Dead easy on old Qjet cars, and cuts the fuel costs by at least 1/3rd... and you get to sell into the Prius haters as combustion generates less greenhouse than a Prius does.

 

That one isn't even a runner though by the sellers own admission.

 

I wasn't suggesting that it was a comp to the OP's car, just offering that despite having been "sold" three times, it's listed yet again. Obviously it's not in the same league, but as others have pointed out, the market for a car like this just isn't there. The 98 coupes have been selling at decent prices, but not the more-door cars.

 

Ok, got it. Too bad the interior of the OP's car wasn't in similar shape, the one that's been sold 3 times appears to be fairly well equipped with power options including cruise control. I do agree with you that the market is very specific. I'm actually a 4 door big car fan, but the OP's car just looks like way too much work, especially considering the lack of parts availability for older B Bodies.

 

Can you imagine what it would cost in gas just to drive it from Florida to Alberta? *yikes*

 

Hmmm, call it 5000 km, or 3125 miles. Most of that would be in the US where the average fuel cost/US gallon would be 3.36/gal. That car has a 25 gallon tank. Estimate 15 mpg at highway speed of 60 mph.

Simple math:3125 miles divided by 15 miles per gallon = 208 gallons
208 gallons X 3.36 = 699.00

Add 15% for error or higher fuel consumption = 803.00

That's assuming the car is roadworth and can make the journey. This doesn't take into account air fare down to pick it up, oil change, oil add, hotels, customs etc. Still sounds cheaper to drive home than have it shipped.

 

I have always found there is an a$$ for every seat and all it needs is 1. Sometimes it takes a while to sell a less than stellar non-popular car. your price is certainly cheap enough and it's worth more than that in parts. Be patient.

 

I'm sorry but it's gigantic has 4 doors and it's baby blue, if it where a 2 door and almost any other color I'd even consider it.
I'd start it way lower and pray.

 

My opinion is 1- 4 door. I can't stand them in any older cars. 2- color. No comment. I agree, for a buyer, this car has no value to invest in. I would say part it to be maybe even or even get ahead a little. Good luck with whatever you decide!

 

So much for imagination. Even I wouldn't try that non-stop. Although if any car was up to that task ... this is it. I imagine that 60mph isn't much more than idle for that hood monster. But I think you've worn all the uber comfort outta that front seat already.

That drive would almost be worth the cost, wouldn't it?

 

Add in cost of tolls....

 

put 22s on it... then it will sell ... no no please don't , i sold an excellent two tone 69 98 4 door hardtop for only 2700 , the paint job must have cost twice that; the interior was also very nice. I had to run it with a mixture 2 gal of high daller racing fuel because of pinging ... should have lowered the compression with a new head gasket set instead.

 

Don't you guys watch TV?

20 or 22" wheels, gaudy paint job, re-do the interior, sell to European collector!

Make $5k easily in 3 days!

 

About 2 years ago, I sold a 60,000 mile Galaxie sedan, never hit, southern car, no rust, good interior, 390, all running gear clean and working well, with new swaybars, tires, and shocks, on color-matched (by accident) '77 T-Bird starburst wheels for $1,200 to a high school kid because I couldn't unload it any other way. And I took $100 every 2 weeks from him to pay it off.

You'll never sell that barge in that condition for much more than its scrap value.

And I say that as someone who's owned a '68 98, a '68 88, and now has a '73 88, and loves 'em all.

- Eric

 

Kind of late to this thead, but I agree with a lot of what others said... Craigslist, give it a good detailing, some whitewalls and plan on listing it a few times. Someone will eventually come around to buy it. Hang in there.

 

1: its a 4 door no matter what 4 door lovers say no body really likes them.
2: its a big car not a Cutlass.
3: sell it for the engine for $1000, no wait, sell the engine for a$1000 and scrap the rest for $400.
$1400 is what its worth.

 

I think the only people that might buy it would be buying it for the engine. I think si442 is pretty much on the mark. There is somebody on here parting I believe a 1970 98 4-door they bought for the engine. It is just a sad fact that nobody wants these big old 4-door cars.

 

Kind of ironic...a land barge with 4drs and not much value is actually WORTH MORE than a cutlass or 442.....at the scrap yard....

 

Oh, they're wanted ... we just can't keep more than one at a time ...

 

No. Maybe you want to give it a shot though. After all Mo ray al, Kay bec is a lot closer.

I was only speculating that it was roadworthy. I don't know that it would make a long distance trip and the engine isn't proven to me even though it starts and runs, and what about tranny or rear end?? Too many unknowns. Have no idea of safety issues like brakes, exhaust, cooling, lights, steering etc. And a 43 year old car that hasn't seen any use for a long time is not going to react well to extended use like the one you queried.

I wouldn't pay 2500.00 for that car even just for the motor. The 1970 engine isn't all that special. I would take a 71/72 G or GA 455 over it any day for less than 1/5 of that cost and build it the way I want it. This 455 has had mechanical work done, so if it's such a turnkey driver with great improvements to the engine, why is it for sale?

Even though it's claimed to be well maintained, the condition of the interior suggests 'walk away'.

 

Someone will it may take some time and more advertising ie lower selling price,IMHO a couple of reasons why not,4dr not desirable for collectors,poor fuel mileage for a driver,parts availability is none existant,and oh you posted on a pro 68-72 a body forum.You can make more if parted out.

 

What's interesting in the midst of all this discussion about the non-desirability of four-door cars is that, in the latest issue of Journey With Olds, there is an ad in the classified section for a guy selling a '72 Delta 88 Royale four-door hardtop with 28,000 miles on it. He's asking $14,900. I don't know how many months the ad has been running. The car has won awards and all, and the low-mileage could attract interest, but I still can't see this car going for anything like that kind of money. Half that, yes.

 

He's nuts.

- Eric

 

But he's a nut with hope!

 

Or, just sell it to a used car dealer for what you can and run. Hopefully, the
dealer will not go insultingly low.

 

That drives home the point of desirability to a T. Everyone will look but no one will buy. Ohhh, ahhh, nice car! You want HOW MUCH??? That's just the way it is. Unless that Delta morphs into a Dusenberg or Bugatti it will likely never sell for that ask unless the right buyer comes along, which I already said in my first post. In the case of most 4 doors, desirability is contingent on the eye of the beholder and price point.

 

It might sell at tax time against some womans will. IMO it might be $1500 worth