Automatic


https://www.garagekeptmotors.com/veh...mobile-442-w30

 

Nothing that wouldn't get me thrown off the site.

 

Thoughts?...
Step away from the crack. Crack is whack...

Looks to have docs. I am just blown away what people get out of an Oldsmobile these days. Everyone is jumping on the band wagon too. Blows me away. New Vette or ...

 

So a W-31 is worth half a W-30? My Braine hurts
Alain
Red W-31

 

Nice, but no way in hell for an auto car.

 

Well what they ask and what they get can be far far apart sometimes.

 

Beautiful car

But why take all those pictures and not include pictures of the "OW" transmission tag, the VIN derivatives on the trans and engine block. Pictures of the F heads, the aluminum Oldsmobile 455 intake, the 7040258 carb stamping, and the distributor number.

At least it has the open face alternator.

Not sure, but is the OAI hood supposed to be white on the underside. Ive only seen black on the underside, unless it was an aftermarket hood.

AND, who drove the car thru a puddle and didnt wipe the under side off when detailing the car?

 

I think it's an aftermarket hood.

The front bumper is tweaked, the trim rings on the wheels are awol, the exhaust is put together with sheet metal screws, the underside is the wrong color. Red fenders look repro, everything is too glossy. A lot of chassis stuff is the wrong color.

All of the above notes on underhood numbers.

Here's the big one for me. That sticker does not match the accessories. That sticker calls for a hood lock, 8 track, safety sentinel, deluxe belts, deluxe steering wheel. All those are gone, and a sport wheel and a 33k mile non original speedo is there instead. To me, this thing is a high mileage, restored 442 with a replacement interior or parts of it. It's an automatic. Assuming that all the powertrain codes are legit, if it were top, top notch, I would say it could get 100, maybe 110. It's not top notch. I think that's a 70k car at most.

 

Oh yea, the front seat covers are wrong, they should look the the top of the backseat, with the individual padded rows. Not flat. Its a cheap set of reproduction vinyl covers.

 

Couldn't agree more. Hood does look aftermarket. No screen for one.
What is up with the red underbody? Same for the gold rear end chassis parts etc. Oh but all original numbers matching authentic car...🤔

Hell it's only 140 thousand. That gives you plenty of room to fix what needs to be fixed...🤣😂🤣

 

Wrong stance in rear. Cutlass springs not 442.

 

Someone was trying to duplicate the red primer overspray that is found on some original cars. Obviously didnt understand the meaning of overspray

 

Wow, these posts are helpful...

 

The body number on the cowl tag coincides with the build sheet so its definitely a W30 car..as for the other things pointed out, cannot say with any degree of certainty. Underside hood white ring is odd, didn’t see a clear pic of it tho.

 

I'm looking for a 4-speed, but if the forum believed it highly original, I might have considered it (at a reasonable price). Will pass...

 

beautiful car!
if you can afford it and like it you can always dump more money in it to make it the way you want.

 

The forum is a great resource however that does not mean that the perception off pics is 100% accurate..I asked many questions on here about the 4 speed w30 I bought, received some good advice and some not so good. I went to look at it armed with solid info and made that decision myself after seeing it and going over it with my own eyes. That is a damn nice car, in my opinion highly overpriced but lately who knows..the bar keeps raising up it appears. Best of luck to you..

 

I'd pass on this. Shoot me a PM and I can help direct you.

 

So back in 1970, the GM Olds new car warranty was only good for 60 days?

 

I would follow up on this offer.

 

PM sent!

 

Bet the restorer who did it had plenty of experience ... on Mustangs. The red oxide floorpan is a Ford thing, innit?

 

All the fools jumping the Olds wagon these days. If you are asking that kind of jack for a car it better spot on. What a joke.

 

My arlington built 72 supreme has a red oxide floor

 

Seats look funky

 

This car for this price is a joke. Never know though. Fool and their money. 🤑💸

 

The advice on here, aggregate, or from most members individually, is spot on.

That car has extreme documentation, but some of it doesn't line up and there is odd stuff going on. If all the stampings (not seen) matched the docs, then that is a W-30 powertrain. Careful examination of the cowl tag and vin rivets would show if it were the original body or a rebody. The interesting thing is that it's not the original speedometer, and that's what they're basing the miles off of. I bet, if one were to question the salesman, they would play dumb and just say they were selling it and know nothing more.

 

That's the smallest and widest spare tire I've ever seen.

 

It might vary with assembly plants, but most floors I've seen were some variation on Chassis Black, maybe with body color overspray around the edges on the bottom (exterior), and red oxide on the interior side.

 

That's the joy of being a dealer. No Man we know nothing. Just selling a car.
Good points you made on the quote window sticker and the car currently not matching up.
Scammers suck. Period.

 

Some years ago, just for S & G I got a reproduction dealer sticker for my '69 4-4-2. It looks pretty convincing -- with a little effort to "antique" it, I'm sure it could be made to look really authentic. I listed all the equipment that my car was originally ordered with (per the GM Historical Services paperwork), but the vendor would have put anything on it that I wanted.

I guess I'm just saying that the info on the sticker is no indication of anything.

 

Their close up shots of the interior did not do them any favors. If that is a restored interior, I don't want to see an unrestored one. That dash and console look terrible. $140,000? not even close. But, as was stated earlier, some people and their money. I may be an oddball, but I still don't see the point of a W-30 with power brakes and A/C. My two cents.

 

The point is for people who want the milquetoast 285/287 cam because they can't handle the 328/328 cam.

 

Amen to that Brother. Doesn't that defeat why you have a W car? Power brakes I can say ok. AC? No thank you.

Exactly.

 

Wimps! Steer with the throttle.
If it smooths out before 2700rpm, your bump stick is flat.

 

Just checking to make sure you received my PM.

 

You will if you have health problems.

 

I know its expensive and a documented car with a collector quality restoration, with problems in both restoration and originality makes no difference to me. I see a car I personally would drive like I stole it and at this price I may have to do just that to see if it lives up to its fender badge!

 

If you can spend 140 grand on a car and then drive it like you stole it, alla salute, brother!

 

No kidding.