D. Yaros

For purchase consideration by the discerning buyer is a low mileage 1962 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88 convertible.

She is black, with a gray cloth fabric top and gray/white interior. She sports the 394 c.i. engine, a 2 bbl carb and the 3-speed roto-hydramatic (slim jim) automatic transmission.

I said low mileage. How about 35,762 actual miles since rolling off the Lansing assembly line?

Full details, particulars and photos may be found on line at ==> http://62olds.atwebpages.com/ and https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2294547.html

The car is located in Milwaukee, WI, ready to drive and enjoy! Price: $22,000.

CONTACT: Dave Yaros - OldsD88 -at- gmail -dot- com (414) 771-86-zero-7
1962 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88 Convertible

chequenman

I never thought the day would I'd see your car For Sale!!!

dejay99

Just brought back a bunch of fond memories. I had a black 1962 Starfire convertible which was a great highway car.

D. Yaros

Price reduced to $24K
Full details and photos online ==> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2294547.html
and
http://62olds.atwebpages.com
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btw

Wow. You're really selling?

D. Yaros

Yes I am really selling. At this point in my life it is time for Saved 62 to be passed on the a new caretaker.

At ==> http://62olds.atwebpages.com one will find a -PHOTO GALLERY - link where there are now 61 photos of the car to peruse.

oldcutlass

GLWS, someone is going to get a fine car.

D. Yaros

Thanks, and I agree that it is a great deal waiting to be had by someone.

D. Yaros

And a "great deal" has gotten even better at a price of $25,500!

oldcutlass

Shocked you still have it.

D. Yaros

As am I. I am doing all I can to be reasonable in terms of pricing and have to say, $25,500 is a veritable bargain for a car with 35,756 documented miles in this condition!

Take all the help I can get in spreading the word of its availability.

D. Yaros

Price Reduced - $24,000

oldcutlass

Dave I can't get your picture link to work.

D. Yaros

Eric, To which picture link might your be referring?
You can get full info on the car at these links -
http//62olds.atwebpages.net
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2294547.html

jaunty75

The Hemmings link works fine for me. The atwebpages link does not. When I click on it, I get what's shown in the screenshot below.

oldcutlass

The link Jaunty posted.

61Bat

I cant believe this is still for sale......amazing car sir, I believe you have it priced very well.

D. Yaros

I do not know what is going on with the atwebpages link? I am now getting the same error as has been reported. I was just on the site 2 days ago, and it worked fine? I shall have to investigate. In the meantime, the Hemmings link works fine -
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2294547.html

jaunty75

Why not just delete the atwebpage link from any postings you make about the car? Isn't one website with photos enough?

jaunty75

I can't help but notice that the original post in this thread is getting close to two years ago. That's a long time to be trying to sell a car that, as has been noted, is very reasonably priced.

What you need more than anything is exposure. You have this site. You have Hemmings. Is it in JWO? Is it on craigslist?

Have you considered putting it in an auction such as Mecum or just putting it on ebay? You can put a reserve on it, so you don't sell it too low. But it would be a good way to test the market.

D. Yaros

The atwebpages preceeded the Hemmings link by more than a few months. I have only recently listed it on Hemmings.

The atwebpages link is back up and working as it should -
http://62olds.atwebpages.com

Thanks for making me aware of the problem.

D. Yaros

I wholeheartedly agree that it has been "a long time to be trying to sell a car that, as has been noted, is very reasonably priced." Too long as far as I am concerned.

Yes it has been listed in both JWO and the NAOC pub, Runabouts to Rockets. I also have it listed on Old Car Online -
https://www.oldcaronline.com/1962-Ol...e-ID849413.htm

Cars Online - https://www.cars-on-line.com/gen3-ca.../posting/94012

She is listed in both the Cars For Sale and Oldsmobile Buy/Sell sections of the AACA Forum.

There are a number of other lesser places where it is listed, too numerous to mention. No, I have not listed it on Craigslist. I am not interested in reaching out to "tire kickers," which is what I suspect Craigslist would yield.

I have considered ebay, but as my last resort.

I do not consider Mecum as a possibility at this time, given what I would have to pay in terms of shipping and seller fees to use that venue.

I am at the bottom of my selling point in term of price at $24K. While I do not have to sell, I sure would like to do so, and pass this car on to another individual who would appreciate, drive and show her.

Daiv8or

Maybe try a broker/dealer. They could probably raise the price to cover their commission and you would still get your 24K. I think there are some buyers that prefer to deal with an established business rather than just a random person. They do all the work of selling, including dealing with tire kickers and the car leaves your garage.

Man, if your car was a '62 F85 convertible, you would have had your money a long time ago. I would have gladly paid this money for a car in this condition.

oldcutlass

That is so much more car than a 62 F85...

D. Yaros

My limited knowledge of brokers/consignees is that the autos they hawk are way overpriced. But you have a point in that if I get what I want, let the broker/consignee make what they can.

Nor do I trust such outlets to be, shall we say, 110% up front and truthful. But that is just me.

jaunty75

This has me laughing out loud. This car hasn't sold for two years, so the solution is to RAISE the price? How does that work?

Untruthful to whom? You? It's your car, and you know it better than anyone, so how could he pull any wool over your eyes? If you're worried about him being untruthful to potential buyers, about the only way he could do that would be to misrepresent the car in some way, and you would catch that immediately in any ad the broker created.

The only thing a dealer brings you is greater exposure, which is what I said earlier that you needed. You mentioned a few places where you have the car listed. Those are good, but there are more. You should be on craigslist. Everyone looks there. It costs you nothing to list there. I have both bought and sold vehicles through craigslist. Tire-kickers do not limit themselves to craigslist. You should be in JWO. If you're not a member of the OCA, here's a good reason to join. The $40 or whatever fee to join for a year is negligible in the context of a $25,000 car, and JWO brings you into direct contact with Oldsmobile enthusiasts, who are likely to be your best hope. Ditto for the National Antique Oldsmobile Club, a group whose members adore cars like yours. Ebay? Worth a shot. You can put a reserve on it and test the market. You don't have to ship the car anywhere. It'll cost you a fee even if the car doesn't sell if it has a reserve, but it's money well spent.

Look for other places as well. Exposure, exposure, exposure. As nice as the car is, there is a limited market for them, so you have to get the word out in as many different ways as possible.

jaunty75

When I sold a vehicle on craigslist (a pickup truck), I just met the buyer in the parking lot of a nearby Wal Mart in the middle of the day. No dark alleys or lonely back roads there, and he never came to my house.

I wasn't aware of the $5 craigslist charge. That is a good idea.

D. Yaros

I may be cutting off my nose to spite my face, but I prefer not to have my car associated with dealers I do not find to reputable.

I am a 25yr + member of OCA, and a NAOC member. I believe I did say previously that I did/do have ads in both JWO (OCA) and Runabuots to Rockets (NAOC).

https://www.cars-on-line.com/gen3-ca.../posting/94012
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...8/2294547.html
https://www.allcollectorcars.com/for...c-88-/2328429/
https://www.timelessrides.com/503310
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...nvertible.html
http://www.wnyoldsmobile.com/classifieds.html
http://forums.aaca.org/topic/299561-...8-convertible/
https://www.vccc.com/vintage-car-clu...how-ad/?id=383

My ongoing experience is that the market is very limited. While Oldsmobile fans are indeed devoted to the marque and appreciate the cars, a more than large segment of the old car hobby is not even aware, let alone a fan, of Oldsmobile. It was a whole lot easier and quicker to sell my
1 - 1963 Corvair Monza Convertible
2 - 1984 Buick Rivieria Convertible
3 - 1955 Cadillac Coupe deVille

jaunty75

No one does, and no one is suggesting you should. But they're not ALL disreputable. I wouldn't write off all dealers because there's a few bad apples. That IS cutting off your nose to spite your face, and what you end up with is a car sitting unsold for two years.

Sorry, I missed this.

You should still be on craigslist. It reaches more people than all those sites you're listed on put together. After two years, it's time to hold your nose and list there. Slantflat is correct. It's another venue. It's an important one.


One other question. Do you ever have the car parked out at the end of your driveway or on the street in front of your house with a "For Sale" sign in it? I sold a car that way once. A guy stopped and left his card under the windshield wiper. I called him, and we struck a deal. You never know what will work.

Daiv8or

And that is the problem. It is so much more car than an F85. IMO, the '62 F85 is the perfect size and I adore the styling.

Daiv8or

And that's just it. Your limited knowledge. You've likely never used their services. What do you care what they make off your car if you get what you want? People here seem to think you can do as well as a dealer on your own and keep the money for yourself and largely people here are wrong. Would you sell your house with a real estate agent, or for sale by owner? If you have a really nice house, the answer is- no f-in way. You have a really nice house... with wheels.

Why would ANYBODY buy from a rip-off dealer??!!

Convenience and security. Have you ever paid over a dollar for a soda at a convenience store when you could have gotten the same soda at Costco for 25 cents? Have you ever ordered something from Amazon instead of the same thing from a completely unknown web vendor even though Amazon was more expensive? Does Craigslist offer financing?? Do you?

It's more than just exposure. Dealers have the ability to make a transaction safe and easy. That comes at a cost, but one must remember that there are a LOT of people out there now that have more money than God and really don't care about $5,000 here or there if it's easy and feels good. I live near the San Francisco Bay Area, I kid you not.

You have gone it alone and no sale. I think it's time for professional help and your car is perfect for a dealer! they will sell the crap out of it with the provenance you have. They will get the cut you couldn't get and you'll get your $24,000. and it will be gone and you don't have to do anything.

As to dealer integrity, well they usually just regurgitate whatever the owner tells them. They are salespeople, not old car experts. If you tell them the truth, they will pass on the truth. They will not however advertise anything negative about the car. It has an oil leak at the rear of the transmission, or the clock doesn't work, or there is a lot of body filler in the right rear fender, they let the buyer do their due diligence to find these things, just like a real estate agent. Do Craigslist sellers easily come forth with such info?

Your car is way too nice to be let go for peanuts out of frustration. I believe that a dealer can sell this for you and get you what you want. Don't let this go on and on. At least talk to one, see what they have to say.

Daiv8or

I have sold more than one vehicle this way. Sign in the driveway on a busy street. However none of them were special interest, or vintage cars.I guess it would depend on the neighborhood.

D. Yaros

Ok, I have bit the bullet as far as Crag's List is concerned. It is now listed there -
milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/d/milwaukee-1962-oldsmobile-dymanic-88/6939801351.html

However, I fail to understand how someone iin Bonners Ferry, ID is going to find my listing. It seems the exposure Craig's List provides is limited to my area, Milwaukee. Am I wrong on this?

D. Yaros

Slantflat, thanks for educating me on the search capability of craigslist.

Possble? Yes. Anything is possible. Likely? I think not. It all sounds a little "hit or miss" to me. What are the odds of someone in Bonners Ferry, ID/Poughkeepsie, NY/Cadiz, KY; pick any city; waking up and saying, "Gee, today I am going to look for 1962 Oldsmobile cars for sale by owner in the greater Chicago area on craigslist? Probably about the same as winning the lottery.

Such odds are certainly not better than someone looking for a 1962 Olds Dynamic 88 convertible on Hemmings.com, just one site where I have the car listed. Per jaunty75 craigslist reaches more people than all those sites you're listed on put together (Post #30).

Per jaunty75 "You should be on craigslist. Everyone looks there" (Craig's List - Post #26). That they do is news to me. We shall see? I hope jaunty 75 proves me wrong! I shall be more than glad to post a msg here stating the number of callers I get from the craigslist posting at the end of its 30 day run. Suffice it to say, to date the phone has not been ringing off the wall.

Interestingly, jaunty75's reference to having sold a truck on Craig's List reflects the fact that it was a local sale (Post #28), since he met the buyer in a Walmart parking lot. He did not meet at some point halfway between Tucumcari, NM and Bonners Ferry, ID.

Notwithstanding my challenging what I think is a bit of hyperbole on jaunty75;s part with regard to craigslist, I do thank him for convincing me to make use of this additional avenue of exposure.

therobski

Hey Dave I may fly up to Milwaukee Labor Day weekend for the big car show August 31 down the road in downtown Kenosha. Last year I cancelled my ride up there due to TS forecast that weekend. Maybe a good place to show the 88 and have a bit of fun. I'm also at that season I'm my life where I want to make life simpler. We are almost finished downsizing into a smaller home and have the big one on the market. When that's done I'm going to sell our 2nd owner 63 Corvette vert. and maybe my 64 F-85 build shortly there after. It's tough to let go but that's what we need to do.

ragtop olds

I have sold a LOT of cars and assorted parts on craigs. Its like fishing, gotta put the bait out and let it soak. Yes , there are a lot of time wasters, but I have never failed to get what I want. I have my 66 Rag on there now , and I have got offers one everything from property in Georgia to 55 T bird resto mod. Just wait it out. Usually comes when you least expect it. Just my 2 cents.

D. Yaros

I presume you are referencing the 16th Annual Kenosha Classic Cruise-In?
https://www.oldride.com/events/9603398.html

They say last year 1,800 + cars registered. That is a bunch of cars.

Given the state of road conditions on 1-94 between Milw and Kenosha, I would say flying in would be a lot safer than driving; especially driving a classic car!

D. Yaros

The hook has been baited and cast in the water. Wait I shall. Thanks.

therobski

Dave my 64 F-85 has a few electrical gremlins to work on before any long road trip.

harleyrules

D. Yaros,

I have sold 5 vehicles by taking them to a consignment place (Streetside Classics). They sold my vehicles quickly and I received what I wanted out of them. It was much easier then dealing with phone calls at my house, tire kickers, etc. Plus the dealer can handle all the financing, motor vehicle paperwork, shipping needs etc. Out of the 5 vehicles they sold only 1 stayed in my state.
Worth a try if craigslist doesn't work for you.