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Not mine - 1972 Cutlass 442 U Code

Old Sep 16, 2020 | 06:57 AM
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Not mine - 1972 Cutlass 442 U Code

I came across this Canadian 72 442 optioned car. https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/...197011640.html
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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Nicely done car. Not many U codes so this is relatively rare.
Old Sep 17, 2020 | 02:43 PM
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Canadian Olds had better documentation than US Olds had back in 1972. Why is that?



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Old Sep 17, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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Canadian Olds had better documentation than US Olds had back in 1972. Why is that?

There was a fire at the location where all the US Olds documentation was stored - up in flames. Canada carried its own records on Oldsmobile sold in Canada.
Old Sep 17, 2020 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tdhill01
There was a fire at the location where all the US Olds documentation was stored - up in flames. Canada carried its own records on Oldsmobile sold in Canada.
The real answer is that Oldsmobile had no reason to pay to store decades-old production records and simply threw them out. That was a boatload of paper. Pontiac was about to do the same until those records were rescued by what became PHS.
Old Sep 19, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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Got more photos of car. Rust bubbles popping up through paint. Not a good sign. Usually means there is major rust happening underneath the paint and the cars body was NOT prepped properly before repaint.

For a 20/20 car, it might be OK but maybe at $20k asking price, not $30k.

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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 09:08 PM
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Would a 1972 Olds 442 have "C" heads?

This one does.

Also, what is the difference between a 396021F block and a 398021F block?

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Old Sep 21, 2020 | 12:20 AM
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Would a 1972 Olds 442 have "C" heads?

This one does.
Look again, they should be GA heads. It's not unusual for the G to look like a C. Casting number above the center two exhaust ports will be 409100.

Also, what is the difference between a 396021F block and a 398021F block?
The difference is that you need to look again at that, too. That "8" is really a "6". Casting flash or grease can cause it to look like an "8".
Old Sep 21, 2020 | 12:39 AM
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Look again, they should be GA heads. It's not unusual for the G to look like a C. Casting number above the center two exhaust ports will be 409100.
It's definitely a C casting head. Here is the photo...




Old Sep 21, 2020 | 12:47 AM
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Well, obviously the heads have been changed. Any photos of the block casting number and VIN derivative stamp?
Old Sep 22, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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The car looks fairly stock now but with the AC ripped out the way it was you do need to question its history
Old Sep 22, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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The Canadian GM docs look legit so I believe the car is a real 442. What concerns me is the rust bubbles showing up underneath the paint. So that means there are problems on the sheet metal that would cost thousands to fix.

I doubt the block is numbers matching as it has "C" heads and other issues going on.

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