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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 07:44 PM
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Help on ebay '67 442

I have a friend who is very interested in a 1967 442 currently on ebay, but he is not an Oldsmobile guy. I have mostly only studied 70-72 cars and am not extremely knowledgeable on the 67's.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...US_Cars_Trucks

He asked me my opinion on the car, specifically if the shifter looks correct (seems to be) and if the interiors were originally two-tone. This car is beautiful to me, and very original and well-documented as listed. I am wondering if anyone knows the car, and I am interested in hearing opinions from those members knowledgeable about the '67 cars. Thanks for your help.

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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 08:14 PM
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It looks like a beautiful car! There are others here that know more than me maybe they will chime in. The shifter does look original, not sure on two tone interior but possible i suppose. Has correct air cleaner for 4 speed. Interior is not what I would call the deluxe interior as in a Cutlass Supreme, it looks like the base interior. As I said others know more than me. All the chromed plastic on the interior looks to be in amazing shape, not sun faded. If it is what they say it is, Id say its a good deal, but for that money I would want to see it in person before any money changes hands.

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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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I am not an expert but the interior does not look like any of the cars I have personally owned or seen in person. It very well could be a base interior that I have not seen. Does look like a nice car.
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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There was two tone interiors on post cars. This is an extremely well documented car. I was surprised at the G in the ViN
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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ebay 1967 442

Thank you for the opinions. Of the two 67 cars that I have owned, both had solid (one) color interior. Thank you for the info. on two-tone in post cars.

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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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I would like to see more of the underneath of the car. Particularly the frame. I'm not sold on it yet but at first glance it is a beauty
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 09:59 PM
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I agree. The frame was a question for my friend, as well.
Old Oct 17, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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I've bought two cars which I never looked under. Both had cracked frames. That's on me and I'd like to see that not happen to others. Call it a pet peeve.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 04:54 AM
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the interior is correct for a Post Coupe
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 05:25 AM
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Thank you very much. That is a big help.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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Your friend needs to lay eyes on the car but it looks excellent in the pics. I'm not sure the final price will leave any room for resale in the near future but to me this is a long term keeper. I bought my 67 with 19,000 mile in 85 and this looks better condition.

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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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I have a Holiday coupe with the same/similar door panels.
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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Excellent information...thank you. I will pass it on. I think it will come down to the condition of the underside.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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The price is shooting right up. Certainly a beautiful car. Unrestored cars of any significance are surely becoming scarce. Personally, I would pay a premium for an untouched car, such as this. I'll be watching, and curious, for the result of this auction.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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I would say the price now is getting out of range and reserve is still not met. This car is approaching W30 money. Beautiful car it is....
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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It's a very nice car, You have to decide, at this price whether you want something you can drive or something your going to stare at and dust once in a while on the trailer in between car shows.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Although my car is now off the frame and generally disassembled, it is a twin to this car except mine has
capacitive discharge ignition, SSI wheels and no power steering or brakes.
I've owned mine since 1969.
As well as I can tell, this car is otherwise an exact match to my car-inside and out.
It sure looks right to me.
26,000 miles with documentation-WOW!
If someone gets this one for $35,000 range, they've made a great buy!
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranzan
the interior is correct for a Post Coupe
Why would the interior of the post coupe be different than the hardtop's?
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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I appreciate the input from everyone. I knew that there would be some good advice here. The price really jumped quickly (and with three days left on the auction). My friend joked that he needs to stay away from the beer in the refrigerator so he doesn't get crazy with bidding. He doesn't really drive his cars much, despite the pressure I put on him...( a ship is safe in the harbor, but that is not what ships are made for). Thanks again for the help.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego
Why would the interior of the post coupe be different than the hardtop's?

Because they are. Just from my 64-67 knowledge all the post interiors are different than hardtops.
Old Oct 18, 2014 | 10:53 PM
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Why would the interior of the post coupe be different than the hardtop's?

It's just the way it was for the '67 Cutlass Supremes (no interior change included with the 442 OPTION):
coupes got the "cheap" two-tone seats and door panels (or OPTIONAL bench seat w/o fold down armrest)
hardtops & convertibles received the "luxury" solid colored interiors (or OPTIONAL bench seat with fold down armrest)
Old Oct 19, 2014 | 04:30 AM
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Why would the interior of the post coupe be different than the hardtop's?

Because they are Cool and better lol just kidding …… or am I

Like it has been said a little cheaper interior in the Sport Coupe models
it was also the standard interior in the base model Cutlass Holiday Coupe
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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----I talked to the owner and he seems to be a really good guy. I would also love to have the car, but with the W-30 67 Im just finishing the resto on, its not in the cards.......Bill S
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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Wow, now over 45 thou and reserve still not met, wonder if any bids are legit.... Wonder if the original tipped tailpipes are under those cheesy exhaust outlets.
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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$48,200 wow, and 29 hours left to go. Stupid people with stupid money. Does this make my car worth more?
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Why is this stupid money?
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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I'm only asking 27 for mine so this might help sell my 67 442.
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 04:37 PM
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Strike while the market is hot Paul. Get that bitch on ebay.
Old Oct 20, 2014 | 05:42 PM
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Everyone talks about how Barrett Jackson auctions and others like it drive up the prices of these cars, putting them out of range for alot of people. When is the last time you saw a regular 67 non W30 car sell for this much. I agree its a very nice car, but $50,000? Its stupid to me. Ok its definately a survivor original low milage car, I think its too much, just my opinion.
However... perhaps my car will be worth more than i anticipated when its done

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Old Oct 21, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Very nice car. I have to wonder why someone pay that much money for any Olds unless it was a W car or a convert. And there is a possibility that he has a friend shill bidding just to get the price up. I can't even get $13k for my friends 66 442, one owner, and it is a very nice car. Just needs some cosmetics.

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Old Oct 21, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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Maybe 2 friends bogus bidding, theres really only 2 people bidding hoping someone will jump in and out bid them thinking its the Holy Grail.
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Maybe 2 friends bogus bidding, theres really only 2 people bidding hoping someone will jump in and out bid them thinking its the Holy Grail.
The bidding does look suspicious with one bidder zero feedback.... remember there are people in this world who have piles of money and dont know what to spend it on or care about the cost. If it sells for that kinda money thats great!
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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Everyone talks about how Barrett Jackson auctions and others like it drive up the prices of these cars, putting them out of range for alot of people. When is the last time you saw a regular 67 non W30 car sell for this much. I agree its a very nice car, but $50,000? Its stupid to me. Ok its definately a survivor original low milage car, I think its too much, just my opinion.
However... perhaps my car will be worth more than i anticipated when its done
Just because its out of our range doesn't mean anything. There are many people in this hobby with money. People with a LOT of money. 50 grand isnt squat to them. And it doesnt make them any less of a car guy because they have money and buy cars done.

Low mileage original cars dont appear every day. The current movement is towards cars like this. Im not in the market for a car so I dont care with the price is. But if I was Id be a fool to think that I could buy it for 20,000. And if it was mine I wouldnt take less than 50 for it.
Old Oct 22, 2014 | 07:38 AM
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Truely nice documented survivor cars are few and far between and will alway bring good money. Not apples to apples but my buddy was offered 400K for his z16 Chevelle in similar condition several years ago. That was at the peak of the market but he was not ready to let it go yet. Hindsight says he should of sold it then. The finally did sell it last year and it only brought 250K ish but still big money.
Old Nov 10, 2014 | 07:59 AM
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$55,000 buys it.

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Old Nov 10, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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Well nobody has stepped up with the 55G's, I think its overpriced.
Old Nov 10, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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I think a hardtop 67 442 with auto is worth 20. 30 if a 4 speed. 35 if convertible.
40 if both. 70 if w-30, and I guess 100 if w-30, convertible, 4 speed.

I think that car is at least 20k overpriced, and I only claim to know values on this
year only as it is the year of car I have. Granted, if he can sell if for that, good,
but, BS aphorisms like "it's worth what someone will pay" aside, the market value
for that car is, in my judgment, 30k.
Old Nov 10, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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FWIW, no W-30 rag in 1967.
Old Nov 10, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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If it is all that he says it is I don't think he is too far off. Unmolested original paint cars don't fit in the usual molds when it come to pricing.
Old Nov 10, 2014 | 03:59 PM
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Admittedly, I really, really liked that car. It was definitely the condition, docs, etc. that I look for, but was well above my pain threshold, lol! Sometimes you just have to wait, and buy them from the estate, as a friend always says.
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