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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 02:24 AM
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A '72 442 vert with a 350??

Is this legit?
https://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/...169890539.html
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 02:39 AM
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Appears to be? 1971 was the last year for the 442 model which came with 455 as standard equipment. In 1972, 442 was an option and pretty much an appearance/ handling package unless you ordered a 455 otherwise it would be a 350.
Now if you have a 72 w-30, then a 455 would be in that package.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:02 AM
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Nice car. Is the asking price in the "ball park" or what would be a good price? Thanks!

Is the rear wing factory?

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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:20 AM
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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by scrappie
Appears to be? 1971 was the last year for the 442 model which came with 455 as standard equipment. In 1972, 442 was an option and pretty much an appearance/ handling package unless you ordered a 455 otherwise it would be a 350.
Now if you have a 72 w-30, then a 455 would be in that package.
So was OAI available with a 350 in '72?
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:43 AM
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So was OAI available with a 350 in '72?
According to the spec brochure posted above, the W25 OAI hood ($154) was not available with the L32 350 2bbl V8 Convertible. So guessing it was available with the standard 350 4bbl V8. It would be interesting to see the window sticker and options list.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 04:07 AM
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The car would not have come with the notched rear bumper with the 350. The 455 got the notched bumper.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 05:25 AM
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Here is what I received from the seller (not a factory optioned W29 442).

It is not a W30, original owner had dealer add W29 options, Vin reads as Cutlass Supreme. The man we purchased from knew the original owner’s son and the man who worked at dealership who did all work on car.
We have no paper Work that actually says it’s a 442 but it has every
442 option. We have a folder full of receipts from original owner.
Car is original, everything works on car and is in great condition, always garage kept.
But, if you’re wanting paper that actually says it’s a 442, we do not have it.
You need to see the car to appreciate it otherwise.
Thanks for looking and inquiring.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 05:28 AM
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No convertible ever got a wing from the factory, period. No 1972 Olds A-body came with a wing either - the RPO W35 option was dropped for the 1972 model year. No 350-powered Olds ever got notched bumpers except the 1970 Rallye 350. The W25 O.A.I. hood was available with the L34 350 4bbl motor. The VIN shows the car was built the "K" code 350 4bbl single exhaust motor, so both the dual exhaust and the cutout bumper were added. My money says that the hood and wing are both repros also added when the car was repainted. At least the car doesn't have the stainless rocker trim, so it probably is a real W29 car. As for price, just keep in mind that real 1972 W30 hardtops sell in the $35K range.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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That money is like at least excellent, documented, original U Code 455 72 442 money, if not W-30 X Code money. Obvious add-ons, no docs, seller has attitude, meh exterior and blah interior colors.

Don't run away, but walk away kinda quickly.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 10:29 AM
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442 emblem on the glove box door is wrong for a 1972 car as well, but hey, if you're faking a car why not go all out. I almost typed "cloning" but that would mean replicating what would be on a factory correct car, which this one is not.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 12:40 PM
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K in The VIN denotes 350 engine was what car came from the factory with

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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
442 emblem on the glove box door is wrong for a 1972 car as well, but hey, if you're faking a car why not go all out.
Lighten up. EVERYONE who owned a 1972 442 in the early 70s (myself included) went straight to the dealer parts counter and bought a 1971 glove box emblem. It was our version of painting W36 stripes on 68s...
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:32 PM
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Low $30's would be a fair asking price for this car and being a convertible. If everything is working and it's solid. The 350 will not be a fast car, reliable, yes but don't expect it to be a fast muscle car. Fun to drive but don't take on any modern muscle cars at the light

Dropping a 455 drivetrain into it would be nice but you are looking at another $10k-$15k once you are all said and done with engine, trans and differential swap/upgrade.

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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Lighten up. EVERYONE who owned a 1972 442 in the early 70s (myself included) went straight to the dealer parts counter and bought a 1971 glove box emblem. It was our version of painting W36 stripes on 68s...
No worries, just pointing out things that some folks may not realize aren't as they were from the factory.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pettrix
The 350 will not be a fast car,
That's an understatement. The VIN K L34 motor was 180 HP net with the original single exhaust (and people laugh at the 307s...). The VIN M dual exhaust version was 200 HP. Standard rear axle ratio was 2.73 with the TH350.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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Nice looking example, It is worth what you want, Cool car but maybe a little off. Joe thanks for the input as my dad would say "Ive been around the block" not my first rodeo .

Keith
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
That's an understatement. The VIN K L34 motor was 180 HP net with the original single exhaust (and people laugh at the 307s...). The VIN M dual exhaust version was 200 HP. Standard rear axle ratio was 2.73 with the TH350.
Hopefully they modified the engine when it was rebuilt. If rebuilt to stock specs, it will be a turd. Probably run 18's or 17's in the 1/4 mile??
Old Aug 22, 2020 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Lighten up. EVERYONE who owned a 1972 442 in the early 70s (myself included) went straight to the dealer parts counter and bought a 1971 glove box emblem. It was our version of painting W36 stripes on 68s...
Even today, people buying modern day muscle and sport cars, modify them visually and mechanically. The new Corvette C8, people are already installing performance add-ons and visual modifications.

Back in the 1960's and 1970's, there is documentation and evidence showing that car buyers were installing headers, modified carbs, visual modifications, etc, to brand new just driven from the showroom cars. Nobody really cared or thought about keeping the car 100% OEM stock. Hot Rod Magazine and many others, were showcasing modified cars and nobody batted an eye about keeping the car stock.
Old Aug 23, 2020 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The VIN K L34 motor was 180 HP net with the original single exhaust (and people laugh at the 307s...).
Unfortunately, and so true. Hey it could still be worse right, the 160 HP 2 bbl 350 was also an option...

Originally Posted by pettrix
Hopefully they modified the engine when it was rebuilt. If rebuilt to stock specs, it will be a turd. Probably run 18's or 17's in the 1/4 mile??
Beautiful and powerful looking car and yes it would be a shame to stock spec. Stock performance would be abysmal. Car & Track tested a 180 HP K code Omega, it took 16 seconds to hit 70 MPH and ran the 1/4 in 18.1 seconds. For those not that familiar Omegas are smaller and lighter than Cutlasses.


P.S. good looking ride and nice shape but it looks closer to a 25K price than a 42.5k price to me...
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