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Old May 11, 2024 | 10:37 AM
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66 L69 442 at Mecum Indy

NOT MINE... obviously. Beautiful car, Mecum is estimating $90-110K.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/1116275/1...ource=hs_email
Old May 11, 2024 | 10:38 AM
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Old May 11, 2024 | 10:54 AM
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A member in our club (NTOC) has this exact car except it has ram air on it. Same color. It is the one Richard called the Holly Grail,
Old May 12, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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Beautiful car, hopefully these 66 cars are finally getting the respect they deserve.
Old May 12, 2024 | 09:08 AM
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I don't think anyone disrespects 66 and 67 442s. 68s and 69s, yes, for the engine, but not the previous.

I am perfectly ok with having a car that isn't madly popular. Keeps prices down.
Old May 12, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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"Madly popular" cars usually go to the guys with the most money.
And the least common sense.
Old May 12, 2024 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
I don't think anyone disrespects 66 and 67 442s. 68s and 69s, yes, for the engine, but not the previous.

I am perfectly ok with having a car that isn't madly popular. Keeps prices down.
Disrespect wrong choice of words. Popularity would be more appropriate. Nonetheless the price indicates popularity which is fine with me. 66-67 cars can still be had very reasonable. If they go up in value as they will its ok with me..😊

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Old May 18, 2024 | 03:38 AM
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Hammered at $59,400, plus the 10-12% Buyer's Premium.
Old May 18, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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I knew Mecums guesstimates were way off. The highest I ever saw on an
L69 car was on BRING A TRAILER. It sold in low 70’s. They only 66 w30 that sold at auction was a frame off, sold at low 90’s I believe.
Thats the old Mr Black w30, now factory white with blue painted top.
59k plus fees is definitely on the very low side for a frame off bonafide L69.

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Old May 18, 2024 | 11:43 AM
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I think it's about right. An L69 442 is much closer to a 442 than it is to a W-30.
Old May 18, 2024 | 12:36 PM
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I think it's about right. An L69 442 is much closer to a 442 than it is to a W-30.
Many frame off restored 66 l69 cars have far exceeded that. That was a deal, try doing one yourself and only spend 58k. Won’t happen unless you can do interior, mechanical restoration and body and paint. Most do some of this but certainly not all. That was a deal!!
Old May 18, 2024 | 08:35 PM
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Many frame off restored 66 l69 cars have far exceeded that. That was a deal, try doing one yourself and only spend 58k. Won’t happen unless you can do interior, mechanical restoration and body and paint. Most do some of this but certainly not all. That was a deal!!
If you've got data, cool. I haven't seen many go that high.

The argument of try doing that yourself is a non-starter; you can't recoup restoration prices in sale prices. This is why no one buys projects anymore.
Old May 18, 2024 | 09:29 PM
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Water pump hoses are wrong. Nice car over all though...Id put it in my garage. 66 and 68 are my first two choices.
Old May 19, 2024 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
If you've got data, cool. I haven't seen many go that high.

The argument of try doing that yourself is a non-starter; you can't recoup restoration prices in sale prices. This is why no one buys projects anymore.
On BAT , they show past sales, very few proven L69 cars as you know. I have only seen two proven L69 cars actually for sale before this one. Mike Richards had a red one and don’t quote me but I believe he got high 60’s low 70’s several years ago. It was a National points car resto. For me it’s all about doing a lot of the work, that’s my hobby so buying a done pristine car isn’t in my DNA. I agree on project cars. However way too many have crazy prices on them and the owners think they got a lottery ticket. Here in town is a 66 442, original drive train, original paint, red, white gut. 4 speed car. Obviously the paint is rough, trunk pan holes, but overall a very complete car, runs good etc. Old cat thinks it’s worth 25k, I like the old dude and keep trying to help him sell it but it’s a 16-18k car, not 25..He will not here it..
Old May 19, 2024 | 07:12 AM
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Indeed.

Then there's restored cars that have problems. My H/O has problems, I fix them as I go.
Old May 21, 2024 | 01:22 PM
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$59K for a hum drum black interior '66 442 is too high in my book. Now, if it was white or parchment...different story.
Old May 21, 2024 | 01:26 PM
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$59K for a hum drum black interior '66 442 is too high in my book. Now, if it was white or parchment...different story.
now that’s some pretzel logic..lol. 😳
Old Jul 2, 2024 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
On BAT , they show past sales, very few proven L69 cars as you know. I have only seen two proven L69 cars actually for sale before this one. Mike Richards had a red one and don’t quote me but I believe he got high 60’s low 70’s several years ago. It was a National points car resto. For me it’s all about doing a lot of the work, that’s my hobby so buying a done pristine car isn’t in my DNA. I agree on project cars. However way too many have crazy prices on them and the owners think they got a lottery ticket. Here in town is a 66 442, original drive train, original paint, red, white gut. 4 speed car. Obviously the paint is rough, trunk pan holes, but overall a very complete car, runs good etc. Old cat thinks it’s worth 25k, I like the old dude and keep trying to help him sell it but it’s a 16-18k car, not 25..He will not here it..
I looked at that car too (the one off Verna Road) back in March when he first put it on the market. It wasn’t running at the time but the seller assured me that it just needed fresh gas. Yes, it is complete but given the overall condition I thought it was overpriced at $25k. I figured that even with body work and a low end paint job you’d likely have at least an additional $15k in it, not to mention any unknown mechanical issues. I thought about offering $15k for it but in the long run I was looking for something more turnkey. I see he’s dropped the price to $23k but that car is likely to sit in his yard weathering away for sometime which is a shame.

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Old Jul 2, 2024 | 06:23 AM
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I looked at that car too (the one off Verna Road) back in March when he first put it on the market. It wasn’t running at the time but the seller assured me that it just needed fresh gas. Yes, it is complete but given the overall condition I thought it was overpriced at $25k. I figured that even with body work and a low end paint job you’d likely have at least an additional $15k in it, not to mention any unknown mechanical issues. I thought about offering $15k for it but in the long run I was looking for something more turnkey. I see he’s dropped the price to $23k but that car is likely to sit in his yard weathering away for sometime which is a shame.
I pulled the carb off for him and he got it rebuilt. It does seem to run good but the car needs everything. Trunk is toast. I tried helping him sell it, i took a guy out to look at it, he offered him 17k and he turned it down. He reached out to me several weeks back to see if I had any interest. I had offered him 14k back then. He said he would take 20. I told him it isn’t worth 20k. He disagreed. Best to him
Old Jul 7, 2024 | 05:31 PM
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If you've got data, cool. I haven't seen many go that high.
Here's some 1966 4-4-2 data, published July 3, 2024. I'll let the reader assess its legitimacy!

Here's How Much A 1966 Oldsmobile 442 Is Worth Today (hotcars.com)

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Old Jul 8, 2024 | 02:39 PM
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Water pump hoses are wrong. ,,,
You trim those hoses to the correct length. Now, it may take a new molded heater hose to reach the correct nipple. The bypass hose may or may not get to the correct water pump nipple. But, it would be a pleasure to start out with a car that is going to take just this and a few other things under the hood and elsewhere to make it correct. It is an eye popper.

I am wondering if you see what I see regarding the rocket fender emblem paint?



Old Jul 8, 2024 | 03:59 PM
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You trim those hoses to the correct length. Now, it may take a new molded heater hose to reach the correct nipple. The bypass hose may or may not get to the correct water pump nipple. But, it would be a pleasure to start out with a car that is going to take just this and a few other things under the hood and elsewhere to make it correct. It is an eye popper.

I am wondering if you see what I see regarding the rocket fender emblem paint?
Most don't take the time or effort or just don't know how to paint the fender bezels. How do you paint the bezels on a black car?
Old Jul 8, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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I painted my black 66’s rockets like he painted his red one. From the factory, as far as I know, the inner edges were painted the body’s color. I would love to know of any factory exceptions that have been seen.

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Old Jul 8, 2024 | 05:20 PM
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Saw this on a nice L69 convertible on Saturday. I prefer black "flats" over silver, except on black 4-4-2's.




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Old Jul 8, 2024 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
I painted my black 66’s rockets like he painted his red one. From the factory, as far as I know, the inner edges were painted the body’s color. I would love to know of any factory exceptions that have been seen.
A black car had silver background.
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Thanks for that information.

Can you speak to the paint scheme for the red car #24?

Attached is what I believe is a factory original taken from a boneyard car:




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Old Jul 9, 2024 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
Attached is what I believe is a factory original taken from a boneyard car:
I also have a boneyard fender emblem from a red car, and its flats are silver, too.
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The red cars I have seen had a black background. I think there were other colors had silver background. IE Forest Green?
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
The red cars I have seen had a black background. I think there were other colors had silver background. IE Forest Green?


Forest Green black background
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Forest Green black background
Is the taper/sloped area Green?
Old Jul 13, 2024 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Is the taper/sloped area Green?
No. mine is black

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No. mine is black
Those are probably repo bezels that come painted black in the area that's supposed to be body color and the flat area either black or silver depending on body color.
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Those are probably repo bezels that come painted black in the area that's supposed to be body color and the flat area either black or silver depending on body color.
Dunno. Could be. Do you know this car? I bought it from 1arunem in Helena just south of BHM.
Old Jul 13, 2024 | 05:03 PM
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Dunno. Could be. Do you know this car? I bought it from 1arunem in Helena just south of BHM.
I know the car but never saw it. I sold them parts for it when it was ran into. What I'm saying is that if the bezel isn't painted body color it's probably repo's that came painted all black.
Old Jul 13, 2024 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
I know the car but never saw it. I sold them parts for it when it was ran into. What I'm saying is that if the bezel isn't painted body color it's probably repo's that came painted all black.

Thats a nuance that I’m unfamiliar with. Ya learn something every day with these cars.
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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
I painted my black 66’s rockets like he painted his red one. From the factory, as far as I know, the inner edges were painted the body’s color. I would love to know of any factory exceptions that have been seen.
Mine was aqua or ocean mist.

The one on the right is original
The one on the right is original
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Most don't take the time or effort or just don't know how to paint the fender bezels. How do you paint the bezels on a black car?
My ocean mist 442s fender decor.

Original is on the right.

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