Not mine. Thoughts on the reserve?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156669445609

 

Dreaming/fantasy island. They are worth 4k mint to the general public. Potentially a few times more than that to a G-Body connoisseur. But 10 times is laughable.

But you never know, some clueless character may think a 442 is a 442 and pay original muscle era like value. But highly unlikely.

38.5 is cold air Grand National money. In 1970, Olds, Buick, Pontiac, Chevy, where all within striking distance of each other perfomance and aura wise. By 1987 442 was part of the conversation in name only.

 

You not be paying attention to the G-body market. Everyone's got Barret-Jackson fever. All I ask is that if you can find any 85-87 442 for $4K that's low mileage, straight with no rot, then show it to me since I don't know where they've been hiding. Wonder what the reserve was for this one, as it didn't seem to meet it at $38.5? I think 38 may be somewhat high, but it may not be anymore. Haven't been keeping up with them in a few years. But they had been trending upward, especially the low-mile stock ones. Just a few years ago that car would be pushing right under 30. Not joking. I think there was a 4K mile 84 H/O that went for $39K not long ago. But $4K cheap they are not any longer.

Low mileage GNs are typically more than 38.5 today.

My own blue 87 442 is similarly equipped as this car, not quite as many options as I have no power seat or pdl, and its also got about 6K less miles on it than this one.

G-bodies in general have been going up further than you think. $4K gets you a beater nowadays. I have a hard time wrapping my head around it too, and maybe a softer market is here, but 20s-30s aren't out of line for low-mileage G-bodies. At least that apparently seems where the market is currently at.

 

As nice as this car is, I think it should be somewhere between $30,000 and $40,000 and probably closer to $30,000. JMHO.

 

Not sure when the car was on the internet for sale last, but when this particular car had just a tad over 20K miles on it, the/a previous seller was asking $18,900 for it when it was in Lakewood, NJ according to the ad below. Original bill of sale of March 28, 1987 showed the sticker $16,220 when new. Financed through GMAC for 48 months at 10.90%!!! What a deal!

Buy used Gorgeous 20,900 Actual Mile 1987 442 - Fully Documented Original Collectors Car! in Lakewood, New Jersey, United States, for US $18,900.00

 

I think the high reserve is more appropriate for a sub 10k mile original car. The seller says the exhaust has been changed and the tailpipes look non OEM, not NOS like they indicate.

 

To me it's hard to tell the exhaust system. Not sure how you're seeing the exhuast system to determine it's not an NOS system. I can't see anything but the tips. But the exhaust tips that I can see is what appears to be aftermarket (and silly looking) chrome extensions that used to be the "thing". They slid over the end of the pipe taking up a lot of real estate. Never looked good IMO.

The exhaust from the cat on back is in 3 pieces. The Y pipe, and the L and R muffler/tail assemblies. That's it. Tailpipes come welded to the mufflers, to which they all had sledge-hammered corners. The consensus say it was for clearance, but if you look at one, they're smooshed on the same side (LH side) of the muffler as mounted.

Also OEM exhaust uses crinkle bends in the tails, while the NOS GM stuff over the counter replacement is shoe bent without crinkles. That's a quick way to tell. Both have the 7/8 baloney angle cut on the exhaust ends leaving just a sliver of the top of the exhaust tip not angled.