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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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1972 Cutlass s lil ole lady estate survivor car

I drove this car home recently over 700 miles without a hiccup from PA. An absolute time capsule. link is to over 125 pics. Its also on ebay and a long winded description is there. This car has the nicest trunks I have ever seen as far as the condition and being a restoration benchmark. Asking $13,500. http://s125.photobucket.com/user/jst...covert%20beige# P1130208.jpgP1130206.jpgP1130247.jpgP1130299.jpg
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 07:50 PM
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That will go fast

Some one is going to get a great deal. Wish I had the cash.
Old Apr 27, 2014 | 08:44 PM
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Those pictures are great! It makes me lament selling my first cutlass again, I had a 40k mile original and let it go...this is the next closet I have seen (while probably in even better condition) I wish I could add this to the fleet, good luck with the sale!

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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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It's definitely in nice shape, but strong $$ for a 91,000 mile car with few options.
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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I saw this car out at Carlisle this past Thursday. Im surprised it didnt sell. Its probably one of the cleanest original's I've seen in years.
Best of luck with the sale, its a beauty.
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 03:11 PM
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It's definitely in nice shape, but strong $$ for a 91,000 mile car with few options.
It is a fine example of what it is, sure I'd love for it to be red with white buckets, ps,pb, ps,pl, cruise tilt 8 track factory guages but its not. And it is an asking price. Need to start somewhere.
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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I saw this car out at Carlisle this past Thursday. Im surprised it didnt sell. Its probably one of the cleanest original's I've seen in years.
Best of luck with the sale, its a beauty.
Thanks. I figure I'll drive it around some with a sign in it and its a car you need to see to believe. Its not perfect but you know what you are getting. Car averaged 17.5 mpg @ 70-75 mph over the 700+ mile trip.
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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One clean Machine!!
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 04:17 PM
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It is a fine example of what it is, sure I'd love for it to be red with white buckets, ps,pb, ps,pl, cruise tilt 8 track factory guages but its not. And it is an asking price. Need to start somewhere.
I understand that. Not saying it isn't a great example, and sure as heck I wish it had those options too! I did look at the entire photo album you linked BTW. There were a few things I noted, but hey! This is a 42 year old car. Granny must have loved her. Best of luck on the sale.

Suggestion? Add 'open to reasonable offers' in your original post. Some people may see the price as being firm at 13.5
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 05:43 PM
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Talk about a rare color combo...........know it well
Covert beige and Baroque Gold - had a 72 Cutlass S Post Coupe with 50K miles on it a few years back. Olds Nationals were here in Cinci at the time and the judges said it was super rare.

Super Nice Car !!!!
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jstrits
Thanks. I figure I'll drive it around some with a sign in it and its a car you need to see to believe. Its not perfect but you know what you are getting. Car averaged 17.5 mpg @ 70-75 mph over the 700+ mile trip.

Very nice Cutlass. Great gas mileage for averaging that speed, do you what the rear axle gear ratio is in the Cutlass? Wish Pennsylvania would adopt speed limits higher than the archaic 65 mph their stuck on, as is most of the Northeast, and be more realistic with 70-75 posted speed limits.
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 05:11 PM
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I'd have to say a 2:73
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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OK, I just have to chime in here because I've looked at these pics like a dozen times now and I feel like a voyeur or stalker. It's in unbelievable condition. My first was a '72 cutlass S. Great score!
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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The trunk shots are almost too perfect..
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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I just realized my first (72 S as well) was like a photo negative. Baroque gold with a covert tan top...looked at the pics again...awesome car!

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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Does it have the trunk light? I see the disconnected plug hanging there.
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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I had a twin to this car about a year ago in Gold. I added some wheels / tires and cleaned it up. The car brought a little more than your asking price and sold in less than 2 weeks. Don't get discouraged with low ballers. There are buyers out there.
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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I wonder why the seat is more worn looking on the passenger side than the drivers ?
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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I wonder why the seat is more worn looking on the passenger side than the drivers ?
Skinny driver and overweight passenger maybe?
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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I wonder why the seat is more worn looking on the passenger side than the drivers ?

Ebay ad explains driver side of the seat had new insert installed in the past.

Henry
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Skitch72
I just realized my first (72 S as well) was like a photo negative. Baroque gold with a covert tan top...looked at the pics again...awesome car!

http://www.gillmail.net/images/cutlassold.jpg
That would have made a cool pair
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Does it have the trunk light? I see the disconnected plug hanging there.
It works. just had it unplugged when cleaning the trunk.
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gearheads78
I had a twin to this car about a year ago in Gold. I added some wheels / tires and cleaned it up. The car brought a little more than your asking price and sold in less than 2 weeks. Don't get discouraged with low ballers. There are buyers out there.
I felt like leaving it as original as possible for now. This way it shows how not much has changed since new. I am a dog dish fan and have to resist going that route.
Old Jun 1, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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i felt like leaving it as original as possible for now. This way it shows how not much has changed since new. I am a dog dish fan and have to resist going that route.
$11,999
Old Jun 1, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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Aren't S's post cars? Just asking as I'm not sure.
Old Jun 1, 2014 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gearheads78
I had a twin to this car about a year ago in Gold. I added some wheels / tires and cleaned it up. The car brought a little more than your asking price and sold in less than 2 weeks. Don't get discouraged with low ballers. There are buyers out there.
That was one sweet car, super original and the wheels were awesome
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Aren't S's post cars? Just asking as I'm not sure.
Cutlass S was available as a HT and Post. Model 3687 HT and Model 3677 Sports Coupe (aka Post)

The Cutlass was also available as a post. Only one that isn't is the CS.
Old Jun 1, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Holiday = Hardtop???

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Cutlass S was available as a HT and Post. Model 3687 HT and Model 3677 Sports Coupe (aka Post)

The Cutlass was also available as a post. Only one that isn't is the CS.
My Cutlass S is described on the dealer invoice as a Holiday. Was the "Holiday" a package of options? Mine is buckets, tilt, PS, front disc, air etc. I don't really know how much or if any of this has anything to do with being a "Holiday". Care to explain Alan?
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Originally Posted by 69ishHoliday
My Cutlass S is described on the dealer invoice as a Holiday. Was the "Holiday" a package of options? Mine is buckets, tilt, PS, front disc, air etc. I don't really know how much or if any of this has anything to do with being a "Holiday". Care to explain Alan?
Really quite easy actually. The term 'Holiday' was just Olds speak for the hardtop coupe. It has nothing to do with the options you have in your car. The Cutlass, Cutlass S and Cutlas Supreme were all available as Holiday coupes. Only the Cutlass and Cutlass S were available as Post coupes, and only the Cutlass Supreme was available as a convertible.

This is all about body styles
3277 cutlass post. Vin starts 3F77
3287 cutlass holiday. Vin starts 3F87
3677 cutlass s post. Vin starts 3G77
3687 cutlass s holiday. Vin starts 3G87
4257 cutlass supreme holiday. Vin starts 3J57
4267 cutlass supreme vert. Vin starts 3J67
Old Jun 2, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
The term 'Holiday' was just Olds speak for the hardtop coupe.
Actually, Holiday referred to hardtop, period, including four-doors. Those were typically called Holiday Sedans.
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I broke this down a bit further for you. Earlier I was on the iPad and it's not that easy for me as compared to the keyboard of my desktop. My new comments are underlined
Originally Posted by 69ishHoliday

Mine is:
Buckets, (RPO A51 Strato Bucket seats)
Tilt, (RPO option N33 Tilt Away steering wheel)
PS (RPO N47 Variable ratio Power, required with C60)
Front disc (RPO JL2 Power front disc brakes)
air (RPO C60 Air conditioner)
etc. (RPO codes available if you tell me what they are)

I don't really know how much or if any of this has anything to do with being a "Holiday". Options are options, most were available on each of the body styles. So, with the exception of the verts, (which had some RPO codes standard that were options on other models, you could build your car pretty much as you wanted to. 442 packages could be ordered on ANY of the 2 door coupes EXCEPT the Cutlass Supreme 'Holiday'. I know someone who is converting his 4 door Town Sedan; model 3669, to include 442 grills and OAI hood. It will be unique and certainly a 1 of 0 produced by the factory. I believe he's doing it just for the 'look' and as a conversation starter.
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
Actually, Holiday referred to hardtop, period, including four-doors. Those were typically called Holiday Sedans.
Maybe. I have yet to find a reference to the late 60's and up Ninety Eight Luxury Sedans being called "Holiday". Back in the 50's and 60's the term "Holiday" was actively used to describe the cars though. I used the Holiday reference in this thread specifically to the A Body lineup since that was what the question was addressed to; it's synonymous with 'Hardtop', but doesn't mean Hardtop. We both understand this, so let's move on.
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Maybe. I have yet to find a reference to the late 60's and up Ninety Eight Luxury Sedans being called "Holiday".
We can fix this problem quickly enough. Here's a page out of the '69 Olds Full-Line brochure summarizing all of the '69 models.

Note the third 98 down in the left column. Note also the first model shown under Delta 88 Custom, the first one shown under Delta 88, the first one under Cutlass Supreme, and the fourth one under Cutlass. All four-door hardtops, all called Holiday Sedans.

In the case of the 98, note that both a Luxury Sedan pillared car and a Luxury Sedan four-door hardtop were offered as separate, more upscale versions of their Holiday Sedan and Town Sedan counterparts.

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Here's a page out of the '70 brochure. Note the car pictured at upper right. It's a little hard to read because the type is small, but it says "Ninety-Eight Holiday Sedan."

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Point taken. Well done! I obviously was incorrect and apologize. I went and looked at the 70 models and that theme is repeated. It appears to change in 71 and Holiday is replaced by 'Hardtop'. It's been an interesting and enlightening discussion.
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Originally Posted by Allan R
It appears to change in 71 and Holiday is replaced by 'Hardtop'.
Yes, starting in '71, the term Holiday disappeared from the names of Olds four-door hardtops, never to return again. Starting in '77, Olds made no more four-door hardtops, period, under any name. Sad. I like both the body style and the name "Holiday," which was used by Olds for many years (since the early '50s"? late '40s?)
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In the production records in Setting the Pace, the first use of the word "Holiday" was in 1949 and used only on a 98 coupe. In 1950, the term Holiday appeared in all of the Olds lines (76, 88, and 98), again only on a coupe in each case. The first use of Holiday on a four-door was in 1955, when a Holiday Sedan style was available in all Olds lines (88, Super 88, and 98).
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Is the sar still available?
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Yes it is. it has a set of super stock 2's on it now with all new rings caps and radial t/s on it. You can see those on milwaukees craigslist. http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4464899747.html
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It's funny to see the ad says the car has never been switched over to SS wheels even though it's wearing new shoes and rubber. Price has dropped to 10,900.00



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