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Old Sep 18, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Master cylinder sucking in air

Hello to all

I have a 72 cutlass supreme , I recently swapped out a master cylinder since old one was leaking. Bought a new one from summit . Everything was fine for about a week and I noticed my car would shake during idle. I checked the hoses and they were good , but noticed that air was getting sucked in from bottom of master cylinder . To make sure it was the master cylinder I put a piece a tape on the bottom and it stopped taking in air.. Is the master cylinder faulty or is it something else ? Thanks for the help in advance
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Are you sure it isn't the vaccume booster?
It could be a bad diaphram. How are the brakes?
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Are you sure it isn't the vaccume booster?
It could be a bad diaphram. How are the brakes?
No I checked that .. The brakes are good. The sucking is coming from a hole underneath the m/c
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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That is a new one on me.
Sounds like something screwy
going on for sure.

Maybe someone on the board has
come across this before and will
chime in soon for you. Good luck.
I will be watching your thread because
I would like to know as well.
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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There is really no way vacuum should be coming from the vent hole at the bottom of the master cylinder.
Old Sep 18, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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I googled like crazy and found someone with a similar problem a couple of years ago. He solved his problem with a new pushrod boot. Sounds about right? And where can I buy that. Looked around and most places don't really sell olds stuff
Old Sep 19, 2013 | 01:15 AM
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What hole on bottom of master cylinder post some pictures.
Old Sep 19, 2013 | 03:51 AM
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I didn't post anything here last night because I couldn't think of anything nice to say.

There is no hole on the bottom of the master cylinder. Period.

There is no way for the master cylinder to suck in air, unless it's empty. Period

I have no idea what's going on with your car, but whatever it is it's not what you are telling us.

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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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The only possible relationship between the M/C and the vacuum problem is that you somehow damaged or didn't properly install the rubber seal between the M/C and the booster. The leak is at this seal. Also verify that the sealing face on the back of the replacement M/C isn't damaged or dirty. As Eric noted, there is no possible way for air to be "sucked in" through the M/C.
Old Sep 19, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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After taking the m/c off I noticed that the seal was damaged. So that's the culprit , here's a pic of the hole I mention on the m/c . Most got confused thinking it was right under or in the middle . It's more toward the booster

Thanks for the help
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Don't think I've ever seen a hole there.

Glad you got it figured out!

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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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I'm having a hard time finding this piece . The piece that goes between the master cylinder and booster. Anybody knows a site where they sell it?
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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This one should be close:

http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-6...FYOk4AodnhsASg

Old Sep 20, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Thanks!!
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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That hole allows air to equalize on each side of the rubber diaphragm as it collapses and extends. It's the gasket that's leaking allowing vacuum to act on that hole, which you've already figured out.
Old Sep 20, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TripDeuces
That hole allows air to equalize on each side of the rubber diaphragm as it collapses and extends. It's the gasket that's leaking allowing vacuum to act on that hole, which you've already figured out.
Thanks for the explanation , I was wondering what that hole was for
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