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Old Feb 2, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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W-30 Intake Restoration

I have taken a 1970 W-30 cast aluminum Intake off of a parts car, which was not a W-30. It needs cleaned up before i post here for sale. Its definitely an original. Casting date of 12-15-69. It has rust residue where the mounting bolts are.

Should I drop it in a rust removal bath or will that damage it? is there a better way to clean the cast aluminum.

I will be looking to trade it, plus $$ for a 7040253 Carb.
Old Feb 2, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Have it wheel abraded
Old Feb 2, 2019 | 01:21 PM
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got it!

thanks!
Old Feb 2, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Have it wheel abraded
Do you have any contacts for companies that do Wheelabration commercially?
Old Feb 2, 2019 | 03:26 PM
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A valuable piece like that I would have vapor blasted.
Old Feb 2, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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A valuable piece like that I would have vapor blasted.
Yep, agree. Vapour blasting brought my manifold up beautifully and quite low cost. Here are a few before & after pics


Old Feb 2, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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Do you have any contacts for companies that do Wheelabration commercially?
Try a google search in your area.
Old Feb 2, 2019 | 08:27 PM
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Explain what this "Wheelabration" process is, please.
I think I would vapor blast or blast with glass beads at 40 PSI or less. I don't think walnut shells will work, but you could try it.
Old Feb 3, 2019 | 02:51 AM
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Old Feb 3, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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Thanks for the link. Good reading.

I would still go with glass beads at 40 PSI or less. This would help to maintain the original surface texture.


Old Feb 3, 2019 | 06:58 AM
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I found someone close that does Soda Blasting. basically baking soda
Old Feb 3, 2019 | 07:52 AM
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Let us know how it works. Before and after pics would be nice.
Old Feb 3, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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Will do. here's before
Old Feb 27, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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What goes here?

Mine is a factory w30 4spd car. what goes in this location (stole pic from above). I have a plug in mine. Am I supposed to have a vacuum port switch in that location?


Old Feb 27, 2019 | 07:27 PM
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Mine is a factory w30 4spd car. what goes in this location (stole pic from above). I have a plug in mine. Am I supposed to have a vacuum port switch in that location?

No - your car would have the plug.
Old Feb 27, 2019 | 08:15 PM
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No - your car would have the plug.
Thank you.......
Old Feb 28, 2019 | 03:20 AM
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Naval Jelly worked well for me. Brush it on spray it off with water.
Old Feb 28, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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I spoke to my engine builder about this a while back. He said they have dip tanks specific to cast aluminum they use to cleanup aluminum manifolds. He said they come out very nice. Not sure what they use, but I can find out.
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Any after pics? If so, what route did you go?
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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I have heard tumble finishing is the way to go to get back to an original type finish.
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by twillis004
I have taken a 1970 W-30 cast aluminum Intake off of a parts car, which was not a W-30. It needs cleaned up before i post here for sale. Its definitely an original. Casting date of 12-15-69. It has rust residue where the mounting bolts are.

Should I drop it in a rust removal bath or will that damage it? is there a better way to clean the cast aluminum.

I will be looking to trade it, plus $$ for a 7040253 Carb.
Why not try trading or selling it first just as it is. Experience has taught me any interested buyer with experience wont pay or trade for a sellers clean-up in anticipation of a sale, and you might lessen your chances of a nice deal. This is one area we who love Oldsmobile might learn a lot from the Corvette restorers: blast cabinets with any common media ruins aluminum parts where a original finish and feel is crucial to a end result. Really rare parts are still commonly ruined for collectors and high-points restorers by careless treatment this way. Procedures, some top secret have been developed by shops to restore a as cast finish to modern aluminum parts. Think of Corvette aluminum fuel injection manifolds being blasted still greasy in the hobbyist garage blast cabinet with glass beads, ouch and ---$$$$.

I must say that finish on 35olds' manifold looks excellent in the pics. Observe the Winters foundry snowflake on the finished manifold and see how the detail remains sharp and I will bet in high relief when felt with a smooth finger. That snowflake is the easiest and most vulnerable way to tell if a GM manifold has been subjected to blasting, ruining it's value as a restoration piece. I never heard of vapor blasting before this but I'm gonna find out. Wonderful looking as cast and pickled surface appearance in the pic. Want to examine the results in person now, thanks to 35olds for sharing those views.
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 06:16 PM
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I agree, if I were purchasing this I would want the opportunity to restore it my way. Chances are you won't be able to recoup your restoration cost in the sale price. Save yourself the trouble and sell it as is.


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Why not try trading or selling it first just as it is. Experience has taught me any interested buyer with experience wont pay or trade for a sellers clean-up in anticipation of a sale, and you might lessen your chances of a nice deal. This is one area we who love Oldsmobile might learn a lot from the Corvette restorers: blast cabinets with any common media ruins aluminum parts where a original finish and feel is crucial to a end result. Really rare parts are still commonly ruined for collectors and high-points restorers by careless treatment this way. Procedures, some top secret have been developed by shops to restore a as cast finish to modern aluminum parts. Think of Corvette aluminum fuel injection manifolds being blasted still greasy in the hobbyist garage blast cabinet with glass beads, ouch and ---$$$$.

I must say that finish on 35olds' manifold looks excellent in the pics. Observe the Winters foundry snowflake on the finished manifold and see how the detail remains sharp and I will bet in high relief when felt with a smooth finger. That snowflake is the easiest and most vulnerable way to tell if a GM manifold has been subjected to blasting, ruining it's value as a restoration piece. I never heard of vapor blasting before this but I'm gonna find out. Wonderful looking as cast and pickled surface appearance in the pic. Want to examine the results in person now, thanks to 35olds for sharing those views.
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by coldwar
Why not try trading or selling it first just as it is. Experience has taught me any interested buyer with experience wont pay or trade for a sellers clean-up in anticipation of a sale, and you might lessen your chances of a nice deal. This is one area we who love Oldsmobile might learn a lot from the Corvette restorers: blast cabinets with any common media ruins aluminum parts where a original finish and feel is crucial to a end result. Really rare parts are still commonly ruined for collectors and high-points restorers by careless treatment this way. Procedures, some top secret have been developed by shops to restore a as cast finish to modern aluminum parts. Think of Corvette aluminum fuel injection manifolds being blasted still greasy in the hobbyist garage blast cabinet with glass beads, ouch and ---$$$$.

I must say that finish on 35olds' manifold looks excellent in the pics. Observe the Winters foundry snowflake on the finished manifold and see how the detail remains sharp and I will bet in high relief when felt with a smooth finger. That snowflake is the easiest and most vulnerable way to tell if a GM manifold has been subjected to blasting, ruining it's value as a restoration piece. I never heard of vapor blasting before this but I'm gonna find out. Wonderful looking as cast and pickled surface appearance in the pic. Want to examine the results in person now, thanks to 35olds for sharing those views.
This link will give you more info on the Vapour Blasting process, but in short its largely water with a slurry of generally super super fine glass bead. At a micro level it peens the surface and seals it.
https://www.vaporblastingequipment.c...asting-process
Old Jul 19, 2019 | 11:38 PM
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A spray on mag wheel cleaner and soft brush may be good. It cleans up British motorcycle head fins.
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Old Jul 20, 2019 | 05:31 AM
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Vapor blast is just called a wet blast in the industry, many chemical plants like this method of blasting due to the fact its dustless, because alot of the old coating still have lead paint, keep in mind since water is used with crushed glass that steel will rose bloom or (flash rust) you can use a product with the water and glass called holdtight that will prevent the rusting process for a few days so you can paint..I would prefer to use aluminum oxide(soda) to blast, its dry and leaves very little profile and cleans up metal beautifully. Or think about using wallnut shells to blast or even dry ice..

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Old Jul 20, 2019 | 05:58 AM
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WD-40 does wonders for flash rust, or chance of it; cheap and simple.
Its also weldable through; atleast with MMA-welder- not actually to the topic, but worth the write.
Old Jul 25, 2019 | 08:44 AM
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Not done yet. Supposed to drop off the engine and manifold mid-August. I'll post pictures when finished.
Old Jul 25, 2019 | 01:11 PM
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HERE ARE SOME PICS, CAME OUT GOOD. TRADED FOR A CARB
Old Jul 26, 2019 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by twillis004

HERE ARE SOME PICS, CAME OUT GOOD. TRADED FOR A CARB
Does look nice. What process was used to clean it up?
Old Jul 27, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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