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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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Tailpipe time - Will these work?

Looking for some tailpipes but haven't had any luck sourcing originals. Will these work until I can find some? I don't care if I can't put the tips on at this point. I will save what I have and put those on when I find some original pipes someday.

What do I need to measure to check? I've never measured one of these before, is it inside diameter? I'm looking for direct fit, just clamp and go. Let me know if these require welding.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flowmaster-6...s/141865616379
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Oh wait, the listing says "Use Offset Inlet / Offset Outlet Mufflers Only." Does that mean these won't work with the glasspacks that are on there now?
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I had a set of NOS 442 tail pipes for 70 - 72 442 thru / under bumper exhaust
I took them to heart throb exhaust and they laser scanned them into their data base and they made me 5 sets

They are also set 4 side / center muffler as factory


you could try contact them???

maybe there are adapters or some side
in
out
glass pack mufflers that would make you happy
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What did they charge you for a set?
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
What did they charge you for a set?

$1350 for 5 sets plus flanges

$400 for a set with tax and all that

plus shipping / travel time

i have the catalog / part # they gave me and call and get you an estimate?? for tail pipes only



all 4 pipes in 2.5 from the manifolds to bumper
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They do sell offset offset glasspacks. Which both will be chaper than 400 dollar tail pipes.

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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
They do sell offset offset glasspacks.
I didn't know that they did. I'll have to see if that's what's on the car now, but I think they are straight.
Old Mar 18, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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calling hear throb now

will get off hold soon ????
i hope


will advise when they tell me more

i do have one full 4 piece set
keeping that for my 71


latest

DID talk to mike today at heart throb
he is going to look into pipes for you
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I was saying in the event you could spend an extra 50 bucks buy new glass packs and run the less expensive tail pipes. Even the thrush welded chamber mufflers are only 25 bucks a pop . Sound like flowmasters. But if the pipes are only 160 vs the correct pipes being 400 I'd spend half and end up with new mufflers lol. Unless you want the o.e. correct stuff or close to it. BTW I found the same tail pipe kits online for 20 bucks cheaper. Google shopping is awesome lol.
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
I was saying in the event you could spend an extra 50 bucks buy new glass packs and run the less expensive tail pipes. Even the thrush welded chamber mufflers are only 25 bucks a pop . Sound like flowmasters. But if the pipes are only 160 vs the correct pipes being 400 I'd spend half and end up with new mufflers lol. Unless you want the o.e. correct stuff or close to it. BTW I found the same tail pipe kits online for 20 bucks cheaper. Google shopping is awesome lol.

Thanks Copper

I was thinking same thought
buy that repro save a few hundred bucks


i have no vested interest in anyone buying the hearthrob stuff
i just did not to pay gardner $1200 for their kit

my 72 was done at a custom shop exhaust was $500 plus wax

It all is what an olds guy wants / thinks he needs LoL

keep the shiny side up
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Even Walmart has some game now: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Flowmaster...-1-Pr/49930578

What I want to do is just get a system in place (glasspacks and pipes) and eventually find NOS pipes. They do show up from time to time on eBay and elsewhere.

I'm assuming I'd spend at least $500 for a set of the Heart Throb by the time they add in shipping. I'd rather place that money toward the glasspacks because I'm gonna need those anyway. Thanks for checking though.
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
Even Walmart has some game now: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Flowmaster...-1-Pr/49930578

What I want to do is just get a system in place (glasspacks and pipes) and eventually find NOS pipes. They do show up from time to time on eBay and elsewhere.

I'm assuming I'd spend at least $500 for a set of the Heart Throb by the time they add in shipping. I'd rather place that money toward the glasspacks because I'm gonna need those anyway. Thanks for checking though.


New old stock
i would guess $1500 for all 4
and them factory pipes are 2 inch or less


when i hear back from mike will let you know
i am tempted to buy 10 sets next time and try the price down low
or not
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The joke that you can pretty much build an sbc by buying parts at Walmart will one day be true lol. Amazon is also awesome for buying parts. You just gotta crossrefrence the part numbers to make sure you are getting what you need. I have a prime account so free 2 day shipping. It's great.
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Here is what I have:








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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
New old stock
i would guess $1500 for all 4
and them factory pipes are 2 inch or less


when i hear back from mike will let you know
i am tempted to buy 10 sets next time and try the price down low
or not
Someone got this one before I did: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-71-72-N...-/111900461478
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Those glasspacks look to be offset. If they have a bend in the rear aswell then they are offset offset if it's straight on the rear it's offset inlet center outlet. But you could buy a small bend to make it work. Or even have a local shop make the bend.
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Took a better look. It seems you have the offset/inlet offset/outlet glasspacks. the flowmaster pipes should work.
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Any chance you would be able to tell what brand these glasspacks are? The car has been sitting since 1982 and I assume it took at least 5 years to rust them out. So mid 70's maybe?

Here is the pic I should have got you. Had to get my better camera. My garage is dark and spooky. HA!

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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
Took a better look. It seems you have the offset/inlet offset/outlet glasspacks. the flowmaster pipes should work.
I was for some reason thinking they were straight, but once I went out to get the first pic, it became apparent to me that I was definitely wrong.
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here is what a quick search got me. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/imm-87087cb/overview/
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30

there are a few of the nos tail pipes out there
have not seen any lead / front pipes
lately

660 plus shipping for 2 inch pipe

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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
I measured a 15 inch center section and 24 tip to tip. Would this still work?
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the one i showed is slightly longer by 1 7/16 in. which in reality is not much. when piecing together an exhaust like this you want a little extra to trim it and make it fit really nice. Yes it should work. with little to no trimming. keep in mind everything slips into everything else so you want a little extra. If you feel you ned to trim stuff i highly recommend an exhaust cutter. Best 20 bucks you will spend for perfectly round cuts. I have done alot of exhaust systems and i prefer it vs. a sawzall.


I may add the part number i showed has one end that is 2.25. they should sell a 2.5 in and out . I just showed that part number to show you can still get those glasspacks.
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
the one i showed is slightly longer by 1 7/16 in. which in reality is not much. when piecing together an exhaust like this you want a little extra to trim it and make it fit really nice. Yes it should work. with little to no trimming. keep in mind everything slips into everything else so you want a little extra. If you feel you ned to trim stuff i highly recommend an exhaust cutter. Best 20 bucks you will spend for perfectly round cuts. I have done alot of exhaust systems and i prefer it vs. a sawzall.


I may add the part number i showed has one end that is 2.25. they should sell a 2.5 in and out . I just showed that part number to show you can still get those glasspacks.
Great Copper! Thanks for hanging with me on this and getting it resolved. I'm gonna order this and the flowmaster tailpipes. Searched vintage glasspacks on ebay but didn't find anything that would work that I was interested in.
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I dont know if you caught my edit but i mentioned the outlet is 2.25. I tried to find a 2.5 outlet vs. the 2.5 and 2.25 configuration to no luck but thats an easy fix you can use a simple reducer backwards to upsize the outlet.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey....hold on one second....can I do something like this???
Amazon.com: Flowtech 50231FLT Purple Hornies 3-Hole Turnout Header Muffler: Automotive Amazon.com: Flowtech 50231FLT Purple Hornies 3-Hole Turnout Header Muffler: Automotive
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You could but they are a bit loud and don't sound very good. But they simply bolt to the headers and that's about it.
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I like the name though. haha. I did get your note on the sizing. I will check and see what they have. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
You could but they are a bit loud and don't sound very good. But they simply bolt to the headers and that's about it.
Searched Youtube to see what they sounded like. Instant headache.

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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
I dont know if you caught my edit but i mentioned the outlet is 2.25. I tried to find a 2.5 outlet vs. the 2.5 and 2.25 configuration to no luck but thats an easy fix you can use a simple reducer backwards to upsize the outlet.

2.5 pipes = better than that
in and out
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
Hey, hey, hey, hey....hold on one second....can I do something like this??? Amazon.com: Flowtech 50231FLT Purple Hornies 3-Hole Turnout Header Muffler: Automotive
The header mufflers are very LOUD. If you hate your neighbors, get them.

Im also looking into the Flow Master tailpipes. I have turn downs on my Dynomax mufflers. I would like to use the tailpipes. Please post your feedback so I can buy them myself.
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Originally Posted by ELY442
The header mufflers are very LOUD. If you hate your neighbors, get them.

Im also looking into the Flow Master tailpipes. I have turn downs on my Dynomax mufflers. I would like to use the tailpipes. Please post your feedback so I can buy them myself.
I will let you know how they turn out. At $80, I just CL them if I don't like them and don't lose a cent. Ok, maybe $5.
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Ok, so now a new problem. They don't work with the headers that are on the car. The flange is too small to bolt up. Could go with a reducer, but they only have one flange not two. If anyone here has any ideas to fix without welding, I'm all ears.
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You could buy the proper flanges for the purple hornies if thats what you are using. cut the ones that are on there. and use something like the link i posted. Btw most advanced or orileys sell these kind of reducers with the bolt on header rings.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pt...FZE0aQoddt0CEA
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I didn't know cutting was an option. The flange on the headers is about 1/2 inch bigger. Here is what they look like:


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Sorry, I suck at this.
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OMG, Purple Hornies!
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Originally Posted by TripDeuces
OMG, Purple Hornies!
Works for now. Well, maybe.
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
Looking for some tailpipes but haven't had any luck sourcing originals. Will these work until I can find some? I don't care if I can't put the tips on at this point. I will save what I have and put those on when I find some original pipes someday.

What do I need to measure to check? I've never measured one of these before, is it inside diameter? I'm looking for direct fit, just clamp and go. Let me know if these require welding.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flowmaster-6...s/141865616379
How did you made out with these Flowmaster tailpipes?
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I ended up going a different route and used the header glasspack mufflers. I didn't want to put a ton of money into a system that I would eventually replace back to factory.



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