Looking on-line and found a person selling some Olds core engines.
I e-mailed and the seller GF sent me some pics. She does not know anything about them. He had posted that he has a 403, 307 and two 455. Can you ID them from these pics? What would you pay for these as is.

Engine #1



Engine #2



Engine #3



Engine #4




These are about a two hour drive for me. The GF says her boyfriend will fill me in on castings when he gets off work tomorrow morning. I am just wondering if these are worth my hassel of renting a truck and spending day to go get one/both the 455. I want to take a long time to rebuild one for fun. What do the experts think?

Thank you!

How heavy is a 455 with all the trimings? I would need to get an engine stand too.



Adam

 

Look like boat anchors to me. Look as though they have been sitting outside?

 

Three of the four pictures won't load for me, but from what I can see, looks like scrap value.

Nilsson's right, though - they DO make good boat moorings if you anchor in a cove regularly.

- Eric

 

They look abused alright, but I wouldn't write them off yet. If the cylinder bores arn't rusted too deep it might cleanup when you bore it out. The crank may also be good, so those two items there would be a good start on a rebuild. Hopefully the heads would be OK. I'd go up to $100 for the second 455 pictured as a core, providing you can pull the valve covers and oil pan to verify it's not full of rust. The intake on that one makes me think 1970-72ish. From your previous posts it sounds like your having trouble finding a 455 in your part of the world. I wish they were just across town, then you could drive your car and evaluate the condition before spending money to rent a truck. If he's willing to take scrap prices for them I do see a couple brackets and other parts that may be usable as trade stock if you don't need them. But a couple hour drive is a long way to go for something iffy. Try to get as much information as you can from the guy over the phone.

Weight of a complete 455 is about 650 pounds. John

 

Hey John,

I wish they were acrossed town to. Scrap yards around here don't even hold on to anything from the 80's. Rims were hard enough to find.
I do not NEED a 455 but I think it would be fun to do. I have rebuilt few "modern" engines. GM 3.1's, a toyota 4.0l L6 and a Ford 2.0l. An Olds 455 would be fun, and I could use it .

Please exuse my ignorance, which are the 455's. My guess is not the tan-ish one.

He is not asking much so I was going offer $150 for both 455's, esp if I was travelling that far.

Eric, sorry they are not loading I don't know why.

Adam

 

Hello Adam
I'm thinking the last one, that's standing on its tail end is a 455. None of them really shout 307 in my opinion... maybe the next to last blue one? It's the only one with the smog valve on the intake manifold. My eyes aren't good enough to tell the width of the intake by these photos. The second with gold covers is likely the 350. But the first one has a point distributor and also looks like it could be a 350. Oh well...

How much will it cost to pick them up? How much does he want for all four? How long have they been sitting out in the field? I don't know what it would cost to ship a motor over the border, but you could watch the craigslist ads in the States close to you. I know it varies in different parts of the country, but we've got motors listed all the time out West. John

 

Despite the corporate blue paint, #4 is definitely a pre-emissions (1972-earlier) BBO. Note the small rib next to the oil fill tube and the lack of EGR.

The other three appear to be SBOs. Engine #3 is the only one with 5 bolt valve covers, so it might be a 403 or 307. #1 has a point distributor and no EGR, so it's also 1972-earlier. It also has the non-A/C alternator bracket. Can't tell much about #2.

 

around here i wouldn't give more than $200 for them. there is that much or more in scrap. i would part out what is good and scrap the rest.

 

If you could get them for the scrap value I would do it. If all else fails you can sell them to someone that is going to build race-only engines so the block could be filled and bored out to .120"...I might be interested in one if it goes down like that. I've been contemplating an all out engine, or one I can practice some machining on w/ out worrying about ruining a good block.

My point is, there is value there that you may not see in dollar signs. Have you ever de-burred a 455 block? Might wanna get some practice before you do it on a known GOOD block. JMO

 

Joe it think both the first one and the last one are both bbo, but the first one is really hard to tell. The intake seems to be wider than the other 2 for sure sbo engines. The second one is an early 350 (casting number) and the third one has the earmarks of a later sbo with the 16 intake with the air tubes and the 5 bolt valve covers.

Gonna need the casting numbers for sure to tell what they are.