GM parts may still be available!
June 23rd, 2011, 04:20 PM
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GM parts may still be available!
I needed a timing cover for my 1968 400. Long story short I found the cover is still made by GM. I called the dealer my shop buys parts from and they said they can only look up parts back to 1971. Knowing the cover is the same on a 71 and a 68, I had them get one for a 71 455. Got it the next day for $63 list price and no shipping. The cover part number is 2252-5282.
Makes me wonder what other parts may still be available. I am thinking we should formulate a list of part numbers. I am not really sure how to do that on the web site, but there must be a way...
Chris
Makes me wonder what other parts may still be available. I am thinking we should formulate a list of part numbers. I am not really sure how to do that on the web site, but there must be a way...
Chris
June 23rd, 2011, 05:14 PM
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Here's a list from about 2003. A few may still be available. GM has changed a bunch of parts. Dipsticks have got an ugly yellow plastic top now. I bought a dipstick tube about 5 years ago & it was just like the original one. The easiest place to look them up is www.gmpartsdirect.com
From ROP on or about 4/24/2003
The following is a quick list of some GM parts still available to help Olds guys out. The prices are at GM's cost plus 10 percent.
Olds V-8 timing cover 22525282...$28.46
Replacement plastic timing indicator shows 0-24 degrees 419048..$5.64
Olds V-8 keyway 588526 $2.35
Olds v-8 cam bolt 558490...$2.35
Olds V-8 plug in rear of engine oil galley with a tiny hole 404199..$2.30
Olds V-8 timing cover stud 5/16 upper for P/S pump mt 22506338..$1.43
Olds V-8 balancer 350-455 can use on 330-425 with rebalancing 417142
$68.46
Olds V-8 balncer washer 568738 $2.99
Olds V-8 balancer bolt 271630 $5.61
Olds 68-73 455 dipstick 419242...$7.05
Olds 69-72 455 dipstick tube 401357 $4.37
Olds 68-72 350 dipstick 401567...$4.57
Olds 68-72 350 dipstick tube 401568...$4.37
Olds 68-76 V-8 tube with Toro pan 400712...$4-85
Olds V-8 baffle in timing cover area 383379...$5.06
Olds V-8 chrome oil cap 1625763...$4.89
Olds V-8 regular oil cap 22531828..$3.24
Olds V-8 water outlet 12302551...$18.57
Olds V-8 valve cover grommet for breather 22532566..$1.50
Olds V-8 valve cover grommet for PCV valve 385283...$4.22
Olds V-8 oil galley plug in timing cover area with small hole 22527021 $3.41
Olds V-8 oil galley plug in timing cover area with no hole 22527020 $3.41
Olds V-8 fuel pump eccentric 382892...$5.16
Olds V-8 oil filler tube 563962...$7.29
Olds V-8 exhaust manifold lock strap 399423...$3.41 each
Olds V-8 brass elbow for sending unit with gauges 401559 $9.97
Rochester Quadrajet secondary metering rods. Very tiny at the end, will turn quadrabog to quadrajet. stamped AX 7033549 $5.97 each
Vac. advance eliminator bracket. Replaces vac. advance and makes it
fully mechanical...1891188...$3.46
Olds V-8 braided ground strap on the back of engine 6287160 $9.33
Nice Tachometer made by Autometer for Olds. For panel mount and has
a Rocket logo and the word Oldsmobile in it. Goes to 10,000rpm part
number is 22551566 #211.26
Nice Tachometer made by Autometer for Olds. For Cup mount and has Rocket logo and the word Oldsmobile in it. Has memory recall and goes
to 10,000 rpm. 22551549...$199.43
Nice oil pressure gauge made by Auto Meter for Olds. Goes from 0-100 psi.
Liquid filled and has Rocket logo and the word Oldsmobile in it part is
22551586 $52.93
Also there is a boost gauge from 30" hg vacuum to 20 psi pressure liquid filled with logos. 22551584 $56.77
Sorry but recently discontinued were the water gauge, oil temp, and ammeter. Also discontinued was the factory aluminum water pump for with A/C, HD brg, hi speed impeller, extra ribbed, saved 7 lbs.
Also is the Tall valve covers made for Oldsmobile. The original had the word BATTEN with the word OLDS below it. They were replaced by the ones with OLDSMOBILE in script. (Mondello bought a bunch of these and may still have some). The one that is currently available from GM is part
22525295 and is $105.07 each. Has the word OLDSMOBILE in block letters with the Rocket logo. Thick tall cast aluminum, for no A/C
"S" spring, 300 pound, GM # 231260 $7.90
limited slip clutches, GM # 231127 $81.01
Battery Hold Down Clamp (NOS)Gm A Body Battery Clamp. Gm Part # 6270159. $2.29
Part Number 394926. Rear Sway Bar
SSII center caps GM #402926 (says “ornament” in description with no picture)GMPartsDirect has it for $47.84
GM still sells the 4 speed clutch and brake pads.
Clutch/brake pedal is part number is 15706041
E brake pedal is part number 3893181
Gas pedal is part number 399431
3835505, $1.37 Distributor hold down
Disc brake dust caps GM PN 539153
GM PART # 3864296 muncie 4 speed Back Up Lamp Bracket $8.48
Wave washers for 4 speed linkage - P/N 9428369
Steering column lock plate retaining ring - P/N 5694191
Bushing, 4 speed reverse rod to column - P/N 1394293
Z bar and Clutch Pedal bushing – 406172
403410 Rubber Bushing for the end of the throttle cable (70-72)
414091 Plastic Sleeve that fits in the Rubber Bushing (70-72)
Group 4.133
1969-73 TH 350, Pipe, oil filler p/n: 6260027
1968-73 TH 350, Indicator, oil level p/n: 1239014
Valve cover grommet 630-1364 balkampt
From ROP on or about 4/24/2003
The following is a quick list of some GM parts still available to help Olds guys out. The prices are at GM's cost plus 10 percent.
Olds V-8 timing cover 22525282...$28.46
Replacement plastic timing indicator shows 0-24 degrees 419048..$5.64
Olds V-8 keyway 588526 $2.35
Olds v-8 cam bolt 558490...$2.35
Olds V-8 plug in rear of engine oil galley with a tiny hole 404199..$2.30
Olds V-8 timing cover stud 5/16 upper for P/S pump mt 22506338..$1.43
Olds V-8 balancer 350-455 can use on 330-425 with rebalancing 417142
$68.46
Olds V-8 balncer washer 568738 $2.99
Olds V-8 balancer bolt 271630 $5.61
Olds 68-73 455 dipstick 419242...$7.05
Olds 69-72 455 dipstick tube 401357 $4.37
Olds 68-72 350 dipstick 401567...$4.57
Olds 68-72 350 dipstick tube 401568...$4.37
Olds 68-76 V-8 tube with Toro pan 400712...$4-85
Olds V-8 baffle in timing cover area 383379...$5.06
Olds V-8 chrome oil cap 1625763...$4.89
Olds V-8 regular oil cap 22531828..$3.24
Olds V-8 water outlet 12302551...$18.57
Olds V-8 valve cover grommet for breather 22532566..$1.50
Olds V-8 valve cover grommet for PCV valve 385283...$4.22
Olds V-8 oil galley plug in timing cover area with small hole 22527021 $3.41
Olds V-8 oil galley plug in timing cover area with no hole 22527020 $3.41
Olds V-8 fuel pump eccentric 382892...$5.16
Olds V-8 oil filler tube 563962...$7.29
Olds V-8 exhaust manifold lock strap 399423...$3.41 each
Olds V-8 brass elbow for sending unit with gauges 401559 $9.97
Rochester Quadrajet secondary metering rods. Very tiny at the end, will turn quadrabog to quadrajet. stamped AX 7033549 $5.97 each
Vac. advance eliminator bracket. Replaces vac. advance and makes it
fully mechanical...1891188...$3.46
Olds V-8 braided ground strap on the back of engine 6287160 $9.33
Nice Tachometer made by Autometer for Olds. For panel mount and has
a Rocket logo and the word Oldsmobile in it. Goes to 10,000rpm part
number is 22551566 #211.26
Nice Tachometer made by Autometer for Olds. For Cup mount and has Rocket logo and the word Oldsmobile in it. Has memory recall and goes
to 10,000 rpm. 22551549...$199.43
Nice oil pressure gauge made by Auto Meter for Olds. Goes from 0-100 psi.
Liquid filled and has Rocket logo and the word Oldsmobile in it part is
22551586 $52.93
Also there is a boost gauge from 30" hg vacuum to 20 psi pressure liquid filled with logos. 22551584 $56.77
Sorry but recently discontinued were the water gauge, oil temp, and ammeter. Also discontinued was the factory aluminum water pump for with A/C, HD brg, hi speed impeller, extra ribbed, saved 7 lbs.
Also is the Tall valve covers made for Oldsmobile. The original had the word BATTEN with the word OLDS below it. They were replaced by the ones with OLDSMOBILE in script. (Mondello bought a bunch of these and may still have some). The one that is currently available from GM is part
22525295 and is $105.07 each. Has the word OLDSMOBILE in block letters with the Rocket logo. Thick tall cast aluminum, for no A/C
"S" spring, 300 pound, GM # 231260 $7.90
limited slip clutches, GM # 231127 $81.01
Battery Hold Down Clamp (NOS)Gm A Body Battery Clamp. Gm Part # 6270159. $2.29
Part Number 394926. Rear Sway Bar
SSII center caps GM #402926 (says “ornament” in description with no picture)GMPartsDirect has it for $47.84
GM still sells the 4 speed clutch and brake pads.
Clutch/brake pedal is part number is 15706041
E brake pedal is part number 3893181
Gas pedal is part number 399431
3835505, $1.37 Distributor hold down
Disc brake dust caps GM PN 539153
GM PART # 3864296 muncie 4 speed Back Up Lamp Bracket $8.48
Wave washers for 4 speed linkage - P/N 9428369
Steering column lock plate retaining ring - P/N 5694191
Bushing, 4 speed reverse rod to column - P/N 1394293
Z bar and Clutch Pedal bushing – 406172
403410 Rubber Bushing for the end of the throttle cable (70-72)
414091 Plastic Sleeve that fits in the Rubber Bushing (70-72)
Group 4.133
1969-73 TH 350, Pipe, oil filler p/n: 6260027
1968-73 TH 350, Indicator, oil level p/n: 1239014
Valve cover grommet 630-1364 balkampt
Last edited by allyolds68; June 23rd, 2011 at 05:18 PM.
June 23rd, 2011, 06:11 PM
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Wow Mike! Thanks for the great list! I will add to it as I do more research in finding other parts.
Looks like you got the 442 finished. Congratulations! It must feel nice. I hope to join you soon. What do you do with your spare time now?
Chris
Looks like you got the 442 finished. Congratulations! It must feel nice. I hope to join you soon. What do you do with your spare time now?
Chris
June 23rd, 2011, 08:12 PM
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June 24th, 2011, 06:41 AM
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June 24th, 2011, 03:01 PM
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i checked with gm parts direct for the timing cover today, here is the response i received.
Hello Robert,
Part number 22525282 only fits the 260 and 307 engines. The cover you will need is no longer available thru GM.
Thank you
Jay
GmPartsDirect.com
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:30 AM, <server@gmpartsdirect.com> wrote:
on the website it lists "engine front cover". I wanted to confirm that i was looking for and olds 455, so i sent them an email to verify.
are they making a mistake?
Hello Robert,
Part number 22525282 only fits the 260 and 307 engines. The cover you will need is no longer available thru GM.
Thank you
Jay
GmPartsDirect.com
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:30 AM, <server@gmpartsdirect.com> wrote:
on the website it lists "engine front cover". I wanted to confirm that i was looking for and olds 455, so i sent them an email to verify.
are they making a mistake?
June 24th, 2011, 03:10 PM
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Yes.
Most likely, their computer only goes back to the 1980s, where the 260 and 307 were the only engines available.
Once again, you're dealing with someone who likely wasn't even born when these cars were built and only knows what he/she reads on the computer. ALL Olds V8s from 1964-1990 use the same front cover.
Most likely, their computer only goes back to the 1980s, where the 260 and 307 were the only engines available.
Once again, you're dealing with someone who likely wasn't even born when these cars were built and only knows what he/she reads on the computer. ALL Olds V8s from 1964-1990 use the same front cover.
June 27th, 2011, 05:33 PM
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Yes.
Most likely, their computer only goes back to the 1980s, where the 260 and 307 were the only engines available.
Once again, you're dealing with someone who likely wasn't even born when these cars were built and only knows what he/she reads on the computer. ALL Olds V8s from 1964-1990 use the same front cover.
Most likely, their computer only goes back to the 1980s, where the 260 and 307 were the only engines available.
Once again, you're dealing with someone who likely wasn't even born when these cars were built and only knows what he/she reads on the computer. ALL Olds V8s from 1964-1990 use the same front cover.
June 27th, 2011, 06:13 PM
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June 27th, 2011, 11:15 PM
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Like Bill in NC said, most parts guys don't look very hard for things and I guarantee that at almost every shop the service department is constantly having to force the parts guys to find things they say they can't get. Most of them (not all) are lazy and complacent and want to avoid serious effort at all costs. If you find a good parts guy they are as valuable as a good mechanic.
That being said, don't give up just because one parts guy tells you something isn't available. I find things in our parts warehouse all the time that our parts department says they don't have.
Dipsticks seem to be a pretty common need. I need one myself. Not sure where they all go. Anyway, someone said that the dipstick from GM has changed in appearance and the aftermarket ones seem to be on perpetual backorder. I found a Cummins dipstick that is the same as the original style only longer. It could easily be cut to the appropriate length and remarked if anybody is interested. I think I will go that route. There are probably dipsticks for other things even closer if people look around hard enough.
I got a little off track. Sorry.
Chris
That being said, don't give up just because one parts guy tells you something isn't available. I find things in our parts warehouse all the time that our parts department says they don't have.
Dipsticks seem to be a pretty common need. I need one myself. Not sure where they all go. Anyway, someone said that the dipstick from GM has changed in appearance and the aftermarket ones seem to be on perpetual backorder. I found a Cummins dipstick that is the same as the original style only longer. It could easily be cut to the appropriate length and remarked if anybody is interested. I think I will go that route. There are probably dipsticks for other things even closer if people look around hard enough.
I got a little off track. Sorry.
Chris
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