Engine finally gave up (Rebuild)
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Engine finally gave up (Rebuild)
After going through a butt load of scenarios on what to do for a rebuild, I decided to just re-use my parts. The only new parts I'm getting are Harland Sharp 5017 rockers. After the issues with the other rockers, I needed something better. At one point I had placed an order for Eagle rods and KB pistons.
I had my extra crank turned, rods re-sized and wrist pins on three pistons fixed (pistons didn't move without force). Had the rotating assy balanced. Got the crankshaft installed tonight. Hope to have the motor back in by Sunday. Glad it's my Friday off day tomorrow.
I'll add, my motor leaked oil from where I think was the rear seal. After putting in the new rear seal tonight, I had the first one in the wrong way (2 piece rubber Ford 460 seal).
I had my extra crank turned, rods re-sized and wrist pins on three pistons fixed (pistons didn't move without force). Had the rotating assy balanced. Got the crankshaft installed tonight. Hope to have the motor back in by Sunday. Glad it's my Friday off day tomorrow.
I'll add, my motor leaked oil from where I think was the rear seal. After putting in the new rear seal tonight, I had the first one in the wrong way (2 piece rubber Ford 460 seal).
Last edited by 67Olds442X2; September 8th, 2011 at 08:03 PM. Reason: Added info
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Yeah I did, about 1/4 inch. Hard to tell if that 1/4 went into the cap. I guess the cap won't go on if the seal gets pinched. It went on ok. Can't believe I had the damn thing in bass ackwards on the first build.
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Thanks, I hope it holds and bet it does. My fingers are crossed also. I'm anxious to get it back together but I need to take my time and do it right.
By dark side if you mean Chevy, if it's available and cheaper to get in Sweden, by all means. It's still GM. Nothing wrong with Ford or Mopar either. Parts for Olds seem to be more expensive, the supply and demand excuse which I guess makes sense.
Hope you get your car back on the road soon.
#10
Engine is in the car. Didn't think I'd be able to do it alone but it worked out. The Harland Sharp rockers come in Tuesday, hopefully the valve covers will work with the new rockers.
#11
Glad to see you are making such good progress. Your car reminds me a lot of mine when I had the spinners on it.
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I have had the same problem with my engine, two rebuilds in less than 2,000 miles and it's broke now. From what I gather it has to do with the timing curve in a higher compression motor especially with the HEI style distributor.
Thanks for sharing your build with us.
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I have had the same problem with my engine, two rebuilds in less than 2,000 miles and it's broke now. From what I gather it has to do with the timing curve in a higher compression motor especially with the HEI style distributor.
Thanks for sharing your build with us.
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I just painted it the same as before, actually a GM blue from Dupli-Color that NAPA had. Thought about the bronze but figured I'd use what paint I had.
#14
Got my rockers today (HS 5017), now just waiting on a couple of gaskets and an oil pump driveshaft. Yes, still got the 750's for now, 500's in the near future. Got to sell my John Deere tractor first.
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Did you recently get this car or not long ago, for i see it still has California black plates.
What did you do to set the rocker preload?
Gene
What did you do to set the rocker preload?
Gene
Last edited by 64Rocket; September 13th, 2011 at 07:05 PM.
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I got it back in 1991 when I was stationed at Moffett Field. Bought it in San Jose. Haven't gotten Maryland plates yet, guess I'll keep the CA plates as long as they let me. Got a CA title with a Maryland address. I'm probably breaking a few laws.
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The rockers are on for the picture, haven't set them yet.
As for setting pre-load, what I did before is when exhaust valve starts to open, set intake by tightening locking nut to zero lash then go 1/2 turn more. When intake valve fully open, do the same for exhaust. Assuming this is correct.
Also since these rockers open the valves a little more, i checked for coil binding.
As for setting pre-load, what I did before is when exhaust valve starts to open, set intake by tightening locking nut to zero lash then go 1/2 turn more. When intake valve fully open, do the same for exhaust. Assuming this is correct.
Also since these rockers open the valves a little more, i checked for coil binding.
Last edited by 67Olds442X2; September 13th, 2011 at 07:21 PM.
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Dan, looks good! I can't believe you went from questions about crank to installed in the car in such a short time. Good job! I am finally ready to install mine but HAVE to send the engine over to DaVinci Performance for a dyno tune. My dad is too curious to let it go so we'll be dynoing it next week. I figure I can wait
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Dan, looks good! I can't believe you went from questions about crank to installed in the car in such a short time. Good job! I am finally ready to install mine but HAVE to send the engine over to DaVinci Performance for a dyno tune. My dad is too curious to let it go so we'll be dynoing it next week. I figure I can wait
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Ran engine today. Goose neck leaks because one bolt hole is stripped, need to put in a heli-coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BCPglzM7M
Not the greatest video, in a hurry because I knew the thermo-stat housing was leaking. Nice belt squeal also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BCPglzM7M
Not the greatest video, in a hurry because I knew the thermo-stat housing was leaking. Nice belt squeal also.
Last edited by 67Olds442X2; September 16th, 2011 at 07:20 PM.
#23
Well I fixed the thermostat leak and took the car for a short spin. I need those smaller carbs.
Well I sold my John Deere and will have some spending money. A new radiator (Griffin), 500 cfm Thunder series carbs, new fuel tank (current one patched), electric fuel pump, and some new tires and wheels. Cragar S\S's and M\T tires. That should do it. Maybe a sound system.
Well I sold my John Deere and will have some spending money. A new radiator (Griffin), 500 cfm Thunder series carbs, new fuel tank (current one patched), electric fuel pump, and some new tires and wheels. Cragar S\S's and M\T tires. That should do it. Maybe a sound system.
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Ran engine today. Goose neck leaks because one bolt hole is stripped, need to put in a heli-coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BCPglzM7M
Not the greatest video, in a hurry because I knew the thermo-stat housing was leaking. Nice belt squeal also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17BCPglzM7M
Not the greatest video, in a hurry because I knew the thermo-stat housing was leaking. Nice belt squeal also.
Nice work, what headers did you wind up using?
d1
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#26
Better vid of car running.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc2I4MJiWbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc2I4MJiWbo
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241/249@.050, .539/.555 (.573/.589 with the 1.7:1 rockers), 110/106
Lunati 60805
Got my GMPP tall valve covers today, I had 3 gaskets under the MT's and still wasn't enough.
Lunati 60805
Got my GMPP tall valve covers today, I had 3 gaskets under the MT's and still wasn't enough.
Last edited by 67Olds442X2; September 22nd, 2011 at 08:37 PM.
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Steve,
Pic attached. Just installed to see how they look. Need to drill holes for breathers. Also they came with 5 mounting holes, the others have been pre-drilled so I assume you need to finish drilling. Not sure if 5 will hold. Pretty hefty covers so maybe 5 bolts will hold them.
Pic attached. Just installed to see how they look. Need to drill holes for breathers. Also they came with 5 mounting holes, the others have been pre-drilled so I assume you need to finish drilling. Not sure if 5 will hold. Pretty hefty covers so maybe 5 bolts will hold them.
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Thread Hi-Jack
SO...no way the Harland Sharpe roller rockers will work under stock Valve covers?
tom
68 442 convt (drivers fender this weekend)
70 F85
95 Aurora (clunks after right hand turns...wtf is that?)
tom
68 442 convt (drivers fender this weekend)
70 F85
95 Aurora (clunks after right hand turns...wtf is that?)
#37
They worked at first with 2 gaskets but would make noise above 3000 RPM. I wanted to double check my lifter pre-load settings and when I re-installed the covers, it sounded like every rocker was hitting. I installed a 3rd gasket so I could make an event with the car. I have the 1.7:1 ratio rockers.
#38
How tall are those GM valve covers and what is the catalog number Please. This is just what I am looking for as I have a full roller rocker set up on my 455 to install in my 48.
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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