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Old February 12th, 2014, 09:48 AM
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Compression Ratio/HP

Does anyone know what I can expect for compression ratio and horsepower range for a 1973 455 with 1969 C Heads (hopefully the large ones) stock quad/manifolds and a decently coordinated street performance cam?

I'm assuming some type of new thinner head gaskets (I hear Cometic).

I have the original 69 400 block and am currently deciding which one to go with. I like the cubes on the 455 and would prefer to keep the original block shrink wrapped but if I have to rebuild one or the other with new pistons for performance sake, I'll rebuild the 400.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 10:07 AM
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game plan

Pull the C heads off of your 400 & then wrap the 400 & put it under the bench for safe keeping. Pull the 455 out of the 442 & freshen it up adding the 1969 heads, your rebuilt carb and an appropriate cam (based on the calculated resultant compression ratio & your planned gear set).


Reinstall, tune it & Enjoy! I call shotgun!
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Old February 12th, 2014, 04:08 PM
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That's the plan so far, I'm really looking forward to some fresh fried tires though.

Then we'll stop into to Sharky's for another round of fish & chips (it'll be the 2nd round by then).
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What's your goal? An 8.25:1 455 won't automatically be a screamer.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 06:22 PM
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Is that in fact the CR I can expect? This is what I am trying to determine. If 8:25 to 1 is the CR, what kind of HP using the C heads and a decent street cam? I kinda of know I would like at least 300 to 350 HP. I'm curious as to what I can expect using what I have before I go broke ( I mean go for broke ).
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Old February 13th, 2014, 10:26 AM
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A 73 455 will have about 8.25:1 stock.
That combo with C heads and a mild cam will get you low 300's.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 03:42 PM
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Appreciate the info.

Thanks! That will likely satisfy me for awhile anyway. Then after all else is taken care of then we'll see how fast I can go (broke?)
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Keep in mind that Olds varied the CR by changing the size of the dish in the pistons, so simply changing the heads does nothing for the CR.
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Thanks Joe, I can assume you don't gain a whole lot of compression by the thinner head gaskets either then.
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Old February 14th, 2014, 11:23 AM
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Randy


Play around with this calculator & you will easily see how compression changes with gasket thickness, Cylinder CCs & piston dish.


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http://www.4racecars.com/calculators...alculator.html
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Originally Posted by RROLDSX
Thanks Joe, I can assume you don't gain a whole lot of compression by the thinner head gaskets either then.
You will lose about half a point of compression going from the factory ~0.017" steel shim gaskets, with a volume of about 3.85cc to the "standard" ~0.040" Fel-Pros with a volume of about 9.30cc.

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Old February 14th, 2014, 04:21 PM
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Well the calculator was interesting. Too bad you couldn't change pistons as easily.

Thanks everyone.
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