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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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can you help me identify this motor?

guys i know this is a vague, this is all i have now..
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 09:25 AM
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It looks to be a BB Olds engine 68 on up by the oil fill cap. The thermostat housing has been upgraded or is the newer style. You need block casting letter and head letters to get us close...
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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get the letter off the corner of the head front left or rear right corner of the engine. Not YOUR left, the CAR's left.

AC and AC pulleys, yet No-AC alternator bracket = BB swapped into where SB once was?
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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It's not the original motor that came in that car. The brackets are for a non A/C car
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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No this is a hurst olds. So a BB was there...just not the original motor. Darn it
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3
No this is a hurst olds. So a BB was there...just not the original motor. Darn it

If it's the right intake it might be worth more than the car
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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If it's the right intake it might be worth more than the car
can you shed more light on this?
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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If it's the right intake it might be worth more than the car

It looks like that intake is cast iron, and also looks "lower" maybe a toro motor? not sure if the covers are notched ( to me it doesn't look notched) , I agree about looking at the head to see the letter it would give a good starting point.

but if the car is a genuine H/O and if the stars are aligned and they are D heads or c heads ( depending on year and application....)

what year is the car ??
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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It looks like that intake is cast iron, and also looks "lower" maybe a toro motor?

A quick search says the manifold should be pn 405233 and is cast?? I honestly thought they were aluminum....
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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ooopppssss....

ok from your other thread the car is a 72 hurst olds... the manifold I told you was for a 69 hurst olds.
need to look at the letter on the head... or some better pics..
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3
can you shed more light on this?
Yes. When I saw the red engine and the light color paint I thought it might be a 69 H/O
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Yes. When I saw the red engine and the light color paint I thought it might be a 69 H/O
I will get numbers soon. Thanks
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 06:26 PM
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text or call me when you can look at the motor
If the Intake has a "J" in the depression behind the water crossover, it might be the real deal

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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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text or call me when you can look at the motor
If the Intake has a "J" in the depression behind the water crossover, it might be the real deal

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I will
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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ok more info....

i have the numbers...trying to get the head info...might not get this..

seems a olds 455 from a 68 or 69..my limited research.

might be a nice score since i bought the car thinking it was a PONTIAC motor...

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie Hansen
It looks like that intake is cast iron, and also looks "lower" maybe a toro motor? not sure if the covers are notched ( to me it doesn't look notched) , I agree about looking at the head to see the letter it would give a good starting point.

but if the car is a genuine H/O and if the stars are aligned and they are D heads or c heads ( depending on year and application....)

what year is the car ??

well the stars have aligned.... the heads are D's..with the casting number and heads...is this close to the original motor???

how do i find the casting on the intake?
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3
well the stars have aligned.... the heads are D's..with the casting number and heads...is this close to the original motor???

how do i find the casting on the intake?
bonus 69 ho motor, D heads are worth the price you paid for the car i bet, should be large numbers on top of intake,
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 04:36 PM
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Look for the numbers 405233 on the intake. If it is a 68 or 69 H/O motor Get the VIN derivative off the machined pad on the block. It might be worth a lot of money if that car is still around.


And no, it's not close to what your original motor should be unless the VIN derivative on the pad matches your VIN

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 04:38 PM
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Are you in GA?
I had a call today, but at work I cannot really take personal calls.
Lucky you!
Congrats
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stan 65 cutlass
bonus 69 ho motor, D heads are worth the price you paid for the car i bet, should be large numbers on top of intake,
Alright intake is 405233 with DIS under the numbers?

What we have here? Thanks
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAWG97M3
Alright intake is 405233 with DIS under the numbers?

What we have here? Thanks

A really friggen expensive intake
Old Feb 9, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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From what I understand, you have D heads and 405233 intake on a block with VIN stamp 33Fxxxxxx ["x" is any number]

The VIN reads
3 = Oldsmobile
_3 = 1973
__F = Fremont CA assembly plant
___100123 or whatever = the car's VIN last 6

This says that the engine block came from a California built 1973 Olds Big Car- 88 or 98, probably. Then the previous owner evidently put this 455 and some '69 H/O leftovers into this car in order to revive/ improve it.

So, the D heads and extremely rare intake are '69 H/O, and should probably be sold to an H/O owner who needs them. Here is a replica intake that I make:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150772154268...84.m1555.l2649

The intake is absurdly rare. Hard to evaluate, because the supply is essentially zero but the demand is also small [yet enthusiastic]. I have seen one advertised [not necessarily selling] for $10-11 *thousand*.

So, the CAR, with its rust issues, is not beyond saving, but wow it'll be expensive. Major body panel replacements.

The car needs a 455 with Ga heads. The 455 is already in place. The G/Ga heads are pretty easy to find.
I am unsure if that model got a W30 engine with AL intake or not, others can assist here. I have a spare AL intake if you need one for the car.

I do have these Ga heads in pretty good condition, and the price shown reflects an added $200 or so that ePay and PayPale take for their assistance. person to person price is somewhat lower.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150646897767...84.m1555.l2649


Since you have some '69 H/O engine parts there, you should probably make note of other part numbers which might provide additional revenue as you proceed.

If the distributor is 1111933, that's a valuable W30-H/O part, and will sell for a good price.

Check the water pump pulley if it's 2-groove- look for a 2-letter stamp on the face of it. Some are quite valuable. Others, not so much. 3-groove pulleys are not so rare or valuable but of course if in perfect condition are a bonus.

Maybe check the cast in ID on the water pump near the large inlet nipple from the radiator- if it's 400xxx like 400268 400269 400289 or similar, typically with a large "O" cast on the passenger side outlet boss, that's a valuable core. Another good core is 404847 with a large "X" cast on the passenger side outlet boss.

Check the trans tag, assuming Auto Trans. RH side, midway fore-aft, it's about 1.5x2" and will tell if you have the '72 trans or maybe a '69 H/O trans, or something else. They look like this, only usually covered in grime and crud. Clean it carefully, like with WD40 and a toothbrush, and read the stamped in digits and letters.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-OLDSMOB...3e9352&vxp=mtr

So, to summarize, probably the BEST course, if you don't have the space, skills, tools, and money to fix her up yourself, is to get the few '68-9 H/O and/or OAI parts to the folks that need them, and the car to the person who can bring it back from the brink.

Another alternative would be to sell one or the other portion- car with no engine or with just the block in place- and the heads/ intake/ distributor/ pulleys- and keep the other portion for your use later. Engine pcs are a lot easier to store. If you get into storing the car at a place you have to pay for, the wife will not like that. It's an endless money pit. What with kids and family and house repairs, it's very hard to every justify throwing $1000's at a project car.

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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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Man if i could only afford the parts on that motor as myH/O still needs them....

What is the VIN on the motor?

Octania did you talk to him to get the VIN sir?
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