Bronze valve guides in a cast iron head

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Old February 3rd, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Bronze valve guides in a cast iron head

Just wondering if it's possible to use bronze guides in a cast iron head. I'm sure there is a difference in heat expansion rates where I think the bronze will try to expand first.
Old February 3rd, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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Common practice although I have never used 'em.
Old February 3rd, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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If done correctly, with the proper clearance, it's a forever repair.
New guides are coated with Loctite before being pressed-in, and I've never heard of one moving.
Don't sweat the small stuff!
Old February 4th, 2013 | 06:34 AM
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There are also thin-wall sleeves, and threaded inserts like a heli-coil made of bronze.
Old February 4th, 2013 | 07:14 AM
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BMC engines used pressed in bronze alloy guides as did many other manufacturers, I guess the metals they were alloyed with gave them similar heat expansion qualities.

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Old February 4th, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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I bought a guide made for a Brodix head because the dimensions were what I needed and did a test fit and of course it fit loosely in some of the guide holes so they might not work. The guides I removed were .565 OD. Had the problem off one guide coming loose. Haven't had much luck finding guides a little bigger.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bro-sh5651132p
Old February 4th, 2013 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 67Olds442X2
Just wondering if it's possible to use bronze guides in a cast iron head. I'm sure there is a difference in heat expansion rates where I think the bronze will try to expand first.
Honed bronze guides are the best way to do the job.
Old February 4th, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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If the replacement guides are sliding thru the head that is not good.
Old February 4th, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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I would think any competent machine shop can hone the head and provide oversize guides...
Old February 5th, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Looking at the old guides it looks like whoever put them in had drilled the holes just a little too big cause they use a punch to make indentations on the guides to make them fit tighter. Sooner or later more would have come loose.
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