70 Rallye Olds

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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Question 70 Rallye Olds

Does anyone know anything about the Rallye Olds at Celebrity Cars in Las Vegas. It looks very nice excepting for some overspray but seems way cheap at $19,900. Just thought someone may have checked it out already. I've always wanted one because I like the oddball cars of the muscle era. I don't know how to decode the VINs on Oldsmobiles. Is there a site that shows how to do this. The Rallye Olds is currently on E-bay. Thanks for any help. My first car was a 69 Olds Cutlass S and I have also had a 86 Custom Cruiser.
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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I'm not familiar with this particular car, although it does look pretty solid in the photos. I once owned a Cutlass S based Rallye 350 and a 70 W-31 F85, so I'm pretty familiar with what is supposed to be there.

I can't claim to know a great deal about current pricing, but I don't believe that Rallyes have ever brought big money like W-31s, H/Os, or some 442s can (even without W-30). They certainly are unique, and there are still a lot of people that either love 'em or hate 'em. In my view, one of the downsides of Rallyes and H/Os (of most years) are the single color scheme. They all look the same (at first glance and/or from a distance).

For what it is worth, the overview that they provided on ebay is pretty solid. As they mention, you can't definitively prove a car is a Rallye 350 (although you can rule it out) by the VIN and body tags.

While this looks to be a solid drivers car, are you looking for factory correctness? There are some issues there if you are (all of which can be addressed with time and money):
  • Wrong grilles (looks like they are from a Supreme)
  • Decals on top of scoops are too far forward and inside of scoops should be painted black.
  • The recovered seats should be all vinyl, not cloth and headrests are missing.
  • The dash and door pillar gauges are aftermarket (the included factory gauges they mentioned may or may not be the rally pac (with tach) as it was optional).
  • Aftermarket stereo with speakers punched in package tray and kick panels.
  • Exhaust has X-pipe design (better performance but not factory appearing).
  • Spare tire is loose (where is jack assembly) and is on a Buick rim.
  • Lack of spoiler is not incorrect, but might be a minus (personal preference).
  • Verify it is a factory hood (or a very good repro with a metal liner). Looks very nice from the photos (washer lines to hood are missing).

Other points to consider:
  • While correct and standard, manual drum brakes are not a lot of fun (can be upgraded if you are so inclined).
  • Couple missing pieces for connecting the air cleaner to exhaust manifold and missing PCV .
  • Looks to have HD cooling with a 4-core radiator (good thing).
  • Gas line from fuel pump to carb is a mess.

I don't know exactly what you are looking for, or where the pricing would end up, but if I were in the market for one of these, this looks like a solid starting point...

Al
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