Why don't we see this?
#4
Ontario...Olds country?
Went to my first local show here and was happy to see: 2 Cutlii from the 60's and 3 70's,2 Toronados, a 98 along with my 69 442! There were only30-40 cars ,so I thought that was a respectable Olds presence for early in our season. Will try out some of the regional gettogethers and keep track, though we ARE part of a pretty exclusive fraternity compared to the peasant Chebby masses!...Derek
#5
Different places, different numbers of Oldsmobiles. Most people in the car hobby choose to have a car that reminds them most of a given period in their life. Chances are if you borrowed the old man's car for a date from time to time, that's what you'll probably have. On the other hand some satiate their desire for the car they couldn't have when a teen or young adult.
Of course there are a lot of people suffering from the excessive reading of "Chebby's R Us" magazine (aka Hot Rod) when young and foolish.
Of course there are a lot of people suffering from the excessive reading of "Chebby's R Us" magazine (aka Hot Rod) when young and foolish.
#7
Keep in mind that performance Oldsmobiles were never commonplace. At the peak of the musclecar years, there were about ten times as many GTOs sold as 442s. There's also the chicken and egg problem. There were more Chevys built, so aftermarket and resto houses make more parts for them. Since parts (and magazine articles) are more readily available, more people build them.
#8
Around here they are few are far between to the point when your are in your olds and you see another you honk and wave like long lost brothers. At the local Friday night rod gathering, my 57 and a 41 are usually the only ones who show up.
#9
I go to the BOP race every year at English Town. Its the only Olds race in the tristate area. They get about 80-100 Buicks 100-120 Pontiacs and 5-6 Oldsmobiles(no its not a typo!!) E-Town used to have an Olds day but the turn out was so lame they canceled it about 4 yrs ago. Just seemsd there is not any support from the Olds community. And we wonder why we get so little after market support. JKaz
#11
I just went to a cruise night on Sunday at the local Sam' Club/Wally World parking lot in Seekonk, MA. I was pleased to see the Oldsmobile's that showed up. There were maybe 15+ there out of maybe 150+ cars. Didn't get to talk to any of the owners to see if any were on this forum. Wish I had my camera. Next time I go, the camera comes too.
#12
Same in Dallas... 200 cars, no Olds. 280 cars, 2 Olds.
Best number: 75 cars, 4 Olds!
Yes, I like being different and having people see them who have never seen them before!
I remember one young kid ask, "What's Oldsmobile? Sounds old..."
On the 4th at the Cedar Isle beach club, I overheard a drunk guy explain to his young friends: "That's an Oldsmobile 442 baby! That thing will get up and run, I guarantee ya!"
Best number: 75 cars, 4 Olds!
Yes, I like being different and having people see them who have never seen them before!
I remember one young kid ask, "What's Oldsmobile? Sounds old..."
On the 4th at the Cedar Isle beach club, I overheard a drunk guy explain to his young friends: "That's an Oldsmobile 442 baby! That thing will get up and run, I guarantee ya!"
#13
The last show I went to had only one Oldsmobile in some 100 or so cars. I have the good fortune of going to our South Sound 442 Club Car Show and picnic this Sunday, July 12th, in Centralia, WA. The good part about this show is that, if it isn't Oldsmobile, it won't be there!
#16
Ralph
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#17
there isn't a small town anywhere in this country that does not have an old comaro in it. there are several towns that dont have an old oldsmobile.
#18
that's how it is in my area. the exciting thing now is, everyone in this town knows that i am the only oldsmobile man around so they call me fast when they see an oldsmobile for sale.
#19
I go to the BOP race every year at English Town. Its the only Olds race in the tristate area. They get about 80-100 Buicks 100-120 Pontiacs and 5-6 Oldsmobiles(no its not a typo!!) E-Town used to have an Olds day but the turn out was so lame they canceled it about 4 yrs ago. Just seemsd there is not any support from the Olds community. And we wonder why we get so little after market support. JKaz
#22
My feeling is that the more rare the vehicle the more value it will have. I also believe that the Olds muscle cars are just beginning to be recognized as real collectables.
Olds has the benefit of performance and style. Many might argue with me, but I think that style is not something generally attributed to many of the Chevelles Mopar cars.
If you're old enough to remember the Olds and Buick line were the cars just below the Cadillac line. In those days only doctors and lawyers drove Cadillacs, but if you were reasonbably successful then you might be seen in an Olds or Buick. Only diplomats and incredibly rich drove a Mercedes.
Olds has the benefit of performance and style. Many might argue with me, but I think that style is not something generally attributed to many of the Chevelles Mopar cars.
If you're old enough to remember the Olds and Buick line were the cars just below the Cadillac line. In those days only doctors and lawyers drove Cadillacs, but if you were reasonbably successful then you might be seen in an Olds or Buick. Only diplomats and incredibly rich drove a Mercedes.
#23
Attended my first cruise-in last night at the Nifty-50ees rally in Spring, Texas. Per earlier comments, my 442 was one of only two Oldsmobiles that I saw out of probably 300+ vehicles. The other Olds was a '70 Cutlass S with a hole in the hood and the biggest supercharger I have ever seen sticking out the top.
#25
I have only been to about 5 shows this year but they where big. The most olds I saw at one time was 2 or 3. But over the past month or so I have seen about 5 different olds on the road, I guess people want to ride them not have them just sit there.
#26
I know alot of people like it, it's just not my "cup of tea."
#28
The cruise-in was OK, but it's not exactly my bag, either, as I quickly found out. Left in less than an hour. The only person I spent any time talking with was the other Olds guy. So many of the car owners seemed to gather in groups and ignore the sightseers.
I have always been sort of out-going and like meeting strangers. What I have really enjoyed in the short time I have been driving the 442 is the attention I get every day going to church, restaurants, grocery store, etc. Driving a "regular" vehicle isn't much fun. I hate just tooling around in a Honda or something and have people just sort of look right through me. Driving a classic Olds, going to Home Depot becomes almost an adventure.
Maybe it's a personality flaw that I don't want to be seen as some run-of-mill retired geek. Anyone with dough can buy a BMW or a Vette and arrive in grandiose fashion at the golf course, but strangers aren't going to come over and strike up a conversation that always begins with "What year is that?" and includes "My uncle/cousin/roommate had one just like it, except it was blue/red/yellow and had stripes down the ...whatever". I have really been somewhat surprized at the number of younger folks that have shown an interest, not just oldsters like me.
I really like my "new" 442 and plan to drive the wheels off of it.
I have always been sort of out-going and like meeting strangers. What I have really enjoyed in the short time I have been driving the 442 is the attention I get every day going to church, restaurants, grocery store, etc. Driving a "regular" vehicle isn't much fun. I hate just tooling around in a Honda or something and have people just sort of look right through me. Driving a classic Olds, going to Home Depot becomes almost an adventure.
Maybe it's a personality flaw that I don't want to be seen as some run-of-mill retired geek. Anyone with dough can buy a BMW or a Vette and arrive in grandiose fashion at the golf course, but strangers aren't going to come over and strike up a conversation that always begins with "What year is that?" and includes "My uncle/cousin/roommate had one just like it, except it was blue/red/yellow and had stripes down the ...whatever". I have really been somewhat surprized at the number of younger folks that have shown an interest, not just oldsters like me.
I really like my "new" 442 and plan to drive the wheels off of it.
#29
We love to ride...Cruise-ins #^&#. Get together once a month up here Greer S.C. All types, classics, rats, trucks etc. We try to ride convoy stye.(gets more attention) If anyone interested form upstate S.C. ( Greenville- Spartanburg area) contact dgray2@m-petfilm.com
ps.......Olds do rock
ps.......Olds do rock
#30
I'm getting very sick of it I hear it so much.
Do you SEE a for sale sign on it? NO? Then DON'T ASK!!!
#33
1st meet ~350 cars, a '53 Olds, '76 88 & me. 1st place, "street machine"
2nd meet ~300 cars, me & 1 other. 1st place, "muscle car".
3rd meet ! 550 cars, me, '66 Cutlass 'vert, '76 88 2-dr. 2nd place, original 60's.
Europe just doesn't see these cars!
Ralph
#34
In our town, seems that there are a few around, although still not many. Local shows are about 150 cars, and there are usually 3-4 olds - a variety of 50s, 60s, and 70s. The big shows here may draw out a few more, but usually less than 10.
At car shows, I usually rarely sit much. Busy walking around, looking at other cars, opening my wallet for my daughters to buy food and drinks. If it gets to the point where I'm sitting much, I won't be going. And I like taking the car out for drives whenever the weather's pretty good, like last night...
At car shows, I usually rarely sit much. Busy walking around, looking at other cars, opening my wallet for my daughters to buy food and drinks. If it gets to the point where I'm sitting much, I won't be going. And I like taking the car out for drives whenever the weather's pretty good, like last night...
#35
#36
vintage car popularity (and value???)
In my eariler days I owned two cars of immense popularity today. I had a '57 Chevy in college and a '67 GTO when I got out of the Army. In my 30's I owned two '69 Cutlass's. Bought the first one in '74 from a neighbor for $1000, drove it 100k miles, and sold it for $1500 in '86. (see attach.) The other was almost identical to the 442 I now own, but a Cutlass S.
When deciding how to relive my glory days, I chose to acquire a '69 Olds over the other popular cars. In my opinion the Olds is a better designed, better constructed, and more reliable vehicle. Maybe the benefit of being a few years newer, but mostly I think better engineering in the Olds division. I know I paid less for the my "new" 442 than I would have paid for a 57 Chev or 67 GTO in similar condition. I think that's a good thing.
When deciding how to relive my glory days, I chose to acquire a '69 Olds over the other popular cars. In my opinion the Olds is a better designed, better constructed, and more reliable vehicle. Maybe the benefit of being a few years newer, but mostly I think better engineering in the Olds division. I know I paid less for the my "new" 442 than I would have paid for a 57 Chev or 67 GTO in similar condition. I think that's a good thing.
#37
Good thread. Lets keep it going. Now to my most FAV car of all time...A 1970 Cutlass "s", yellow, black top, buckets, auto,8-track, a/c...etc. This was my first new car EVER. Boy, I was so proud. When I sold it in 1971 to go into service. I lost it forever. I've searched the internet etc for 3 1/2 yrs now. I've yet to even find a picture. Anyone have one? Or a car?
Thanks
Thanks
#38
Good thread. Lets keep it going. Now to my most FAV car of all time...A 1970 Cutlass "s", yellow, black top, buckets, auto,8-track, a/c...etc. This was my first new car EVER. Boy, I was so proud. When I sold it in 1971 to go into service. I lost it forever. I've searched the internet etc for 3 1/2 yrs now. I've yet to even find a picture. Anyone have one? Or a car?
Thanks
Thanks
Ralph
#39
My old time hot rod buddy was getting a new Chevelle SS back in '69. To try and keep up I bought a used '67 442 (traded in my '56 Chev 210 sedan with 396 motor). Sold the '67 in '71 in order to buy a new '71 442. After that it was pretty much Olds for me: a '73 98 biz car, a '79 biz 88, a '84 biz 88, a early 90's biz 88, a '96 biz Aurora. Everyone of those cars gave me great service. I always wanted that '71 442 back and have recently bought a nice '71 which I have restored to be like the '71 that I had-white w oai hood, ps, pb, a/c. It is real nice & dependable-I took it on the Hot Rod Power Tour this year. It is true that you often want what you had. In this case, I do have it.
#40
Down here in NC it is kind of rare too seeing more than one or two Oldses at a car show. Oldsmobiles originally sold in NC were kind of rare. But as more as folks from around the country move here,especially from the larger population centers, we are starting to see a few more Oldsmobiles.
When I lived on Long Island there were always an abundance of Olds performance cars at any given meet.
When I lived on Long Island there were always an abundance of Olds performance cars at any given meet.
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