sammy

I have been thru all the rims in my shop and the only ones to fit properly on my 68 442 with dual piston calipers are the steel wheels.
Was there an SS1 made that will have the proper offset to fit these calipers?.....I like the look of the ss1 .........

Thanks,
Ted

2blu442

I've got some 14X7 SSI wheels, I thought only the early 14X6 SSI wheels were drum brake only. Someone else will have to clarify, but I'm almost positive the 14X7 SSI, SSII and all sizes of SSIII will fit disc brakes.


John

sammy

Yea, I bought a set of SS1 14x6 stamped with a Nov 69 manufacture date......they fit the rear

tru-blue 442

Ted, you will have to look for the LY
code wheels. 14X6 I believe.
Made for about 6 months in 69.

I had a set a few years back.
The code is by the valve stem.
Seems like they were full chrome wheels,
and not the ones with the paintable spokes.

wmachine

Yes, sort of.
The 810 SSIs were introduced in April '69 and fit disc brakes. The code stamp is not by the valve stem, it is on the outer part of the rim on the *inboard* side of the wheel, presumably not to mess up the chrome finish.
None of the 14 x 6 SSI wheels have painted spokes. The spokes have a satin finish because the centers are bead blasted so the black inset paint will stick. Some early '66 SSIs do not have the satin spokes. It took a little time for them to realize the paint was not sticking!
FWIW, my '69 has disc brakes and came with those wheels.

sammy

So the LY code wheel 14x6 would be pretty hard to find ?
Would the dual piston caliper need more offset than a single piston?
The JL2 is a GOOD inch outside the rotor, with hardly any room between the caliper and rotor

I have the steelies and period correct wire hubcaps..just really like the look of the ss1 on the car

Is the LY code wheel the same as the rims that came with HO in 69?....

tru-blue 442

Ted, I believe the 69 H/O
wheel was a 15" SS-2...

I could be wrong. Kurt?

firefighter5174

My 69 Cutlass has the ss1s that fit disc brakes. Ive been considering letting them go. Not sure what kind of price to ask if I do. They would be good drivers (one has curb damage and will need to be fixed). If I remember correctly all have minor pitting.

rcorrigan5

The 14X6 SSII (LS) wheels will fit the dual piston caliper cars. My niece's '68 with the dual piston calipers has these wheels.

Don't know if the LY code 14X6 SSI wheels will fit the dual piston calipers.

As best as I have been able to figure, the 14 X 6 LY SSI was made for only about 4 months - from early April 1969 to the middle or late July 1969 - which finally gave the buyer back then the option of having the SSI wheel with disc brakes. I've got a '69 4-4-2 that was a mid-May 1969 production with disc brakes and LY wheels. The other style of SSI wheels (LE, or 795?) only work with drum brakes.

Price for a set of LY wheels? Hard to say. Somewhat rare - yes. But what is the demand? Don't know.

I agree with Ted - I like the looks of the SSI wheel the best. Although my '68 with drum brakes originally came with steel wheels and wire wheel covers, I believe the car looks a lot better with the SSI wheel!

My first car, a'69 holiday, also had drum brake SSI wheels.

Randy C.

sammy

Great info here...thanks

wmachine

Correct

Yup! I believe prior to '68, the SSI wheels were *not* stamped with the Broadcast Code. In fact, there is evidence that in '66-'67 they did not even *use* a Broadcast Code for the SSI wheels.

There were definitely preferences for both. The SSIs were the universally liked 5 spoke design, and the SSIIs were a very unique and distinctive Olds wheel that became iconic for Olds. In '68 & '69, I'm sure Olds dealers did a lot of wheel swapping both ways before deliveries.

hookem horns

Not the cheapest option, but you could get 15" Wheel Vintiques SS1 repro's that would open up a lot of tire options. Or find 1970+ SS1's if you like the trim ring look.

I'm not sure, but do the later single piston calipers change what wheels fit? If so, they are plentiful, simple and cheap if exact originality is not a concern.

http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...ed-slot-wheels

Koda

I'll agree with the 810 series being the disc brake compatible ones, but mine are JK code, not LY. Dug one out of the closet to look at it.

And the later calipers work, as they're sitting in the closet too, on their spindles.

sammy

just picked these up.
Need some help IDing them


M5/8 2 valve 8 NA


M= Motor wheel corp, plant 5
8=1968
2=Feb


8=8th day
NA=application code


Am I way off in the identification of these rims?
any help would be great!

tru-blue 442

Don't know the codes Ted.
They look like SS-3's.
Are they 15X7?

2blu442

I agree, they look like the 1980's Hurst Olds wheels, SSIII 15X7

John

2blu442

One more thing, snap on center caps didn't start until 1975. 1968 would have bolt on centers.


John

Octania

"M5/8 2 valve 8 NA

M= Motor wheel corp, plant 5
8=1968
2=Feb
8=8th day
NA=application code"
====================
I'll vote incorrect on the above
The center cap stays on via spring clips in the squared off recesses of the center hole, and that was certainly not done in '68- not until at LEAST 1973. Someone has probably decoded the stampings on wheels, maybe for Chevies?

The "right" wheels for my '68 were stamped 695C I believe, and it took a while to find a set. They fit the manual DRUM brakes my car was provided with at the factory. I hear that the later SSI 14" all chrome [trim ringless] wheels could fit dish brakes, not sure what their stamping is.

The Supercars Unlimited catalog had a nice little chart of sizes, stampings, and fitment- maybe you can find that.

joe_padavano

The only SSII wheels available in 1968 were 14x6 with bolt-on centers, and they were NOT chrome plated, so I also vote "no" on your "decoding". As noted, snap-in centers are 1975-up, and chrome plated disk stampings were 1980s. The trim ring is not correct for an Olds wheel.

sammy

Thanks for the input...much appreciated!

sammy

I was decoding the rim based on what I had learned on decoding steel wheels...I guess it is not the same.....that is what was messing me up with these rims....