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Old November 7th, 2013, 01:59 PM
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Broadcast sheet help

How do you decifer the numbers and letters on a broadcast sheet. Also when the car shows the two slashes for the paint code can it be any special order paint or is there a way to tell what it was from the factory. Thanks. Greg
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Old November 7th, 2013, 02:16 PM
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A broadcast card is just that a card #1
A buildsheet will tell you the whole story #2

Which one are we talking about?
And what year?

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Originally Posted by 1970cs
A broadcast card is just that a card #1
A buildsheet will tell you the whole story #2

Which one are we talking about?
And what year?

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The first one you posted. It's from a 1970 w-30. Auto, with air.
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Has numbered Box's. Box 7 says AU3. Box 9 says U80. Box 8 says C60. Then it has LWR 73. Top UPR IS B. Trim is 930. Box 3 says W30. Thanks for the help. Is there a book or wb site that tells all ??
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Try GMheritagecenter.com go to archives then vehicle info kits, then Oldsmobile tab find pg. 225 plus another 10 or so pages just match option codes.
Also wildaboutcars.com free to join and use!

Sorry I am on a tablet or I would normally post the links to each site plus I have printed pages of 1968-72 at my work for quick reference but none at where I am now.

FYI since it is a W30 only Lansing built, build sheets from there are rare as hens teeth.

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73 is "rally red"
B is black vinyl top
930 is black strato bucket seats
AU3 is ??
C60 is A/C
U80 is rear speaker
W30 is
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AU3=lock, side door electric

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Old November 8th, 2013, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Zr1bandit
HAlso when the car shows the two slashes for the paint code can it be any special order paint or is there a way to tell what it was from the factory. Thanks. Greg
Nope, it could have been any one of the special order colors available that year.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Nope, it could have been any one of the special order colors available that year.
Actually Yes Joe. If the guy was lucky enough to find the actual Build sheet (not the broadcast card that was described) there would be a bypass code listed in box 107. It would also have the color listed and possibly a dupont paint code.
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Actually Yes Joe. If the guy was lucky enough to find the actual Build sheet (not the broadcast card that was described) there would be a bypass code listed in box 107. It would also have the color listed and possibly a dupont paint code.
The sheet shows number 73 in the paint box. Also has the letter B in the box labeled UPR
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Yes, the 73 B is covered by Hurst68's post. I was just commenting that IF the color was a - - (other than a known car like the 70 Rallye 350), the only way to really document that would be on the build sheet. I do have a cowl tag and corresponding build sheet for a 72 Cutlass S that was factory painted ebony black. And it has the - - on the tag since ebony black was extra cost. GM didn't paint any of their A bodies (even other brands) ebony black as a standard color that year.

A broadcast card will not have a bypass color code listed on it. I'm familiar with the card you're describing - it's the broadcast card. On the actual build sheet the color code would be somewhere around box 79 and would show the bypass colors in it. That color change would also be documented in box 107 (middle of the build sheet) under the listing of RPO options installed on the car.
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Yes, the 73 B is covered by Hurst68's post. I was just commenting that IF the color was a - - (other than a known car like the 70 Rallye 350), the only way to really document that would be on the build sheet. I do have a cowl tag and corresponding build sheet for a 72 Cutlass S that was factory painted ebony black. And it has the - - on the tag since ebony black was extra cost. GM didn't paint any of their A bodies (even other brands) ebony black as a standard color that year.

A broadcast card will not have a bypass color code listed on it. I'm familiar with the card you're describing - it's the broadcast card. On the actual build sheet the color code would be somewhere around box 79 and would show the bypass colors in it. That color change would also be documented in box 107 (middle of the build sheet) under the listing of RPO options installed on the car.
There's a box next to the paint numbers with a pointed top that has the letters PP in it. What would that be. ??
in it What would that be ??
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Could you post a picture of it?
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Originally Posted by GAOldsman
Could you post a picture of it?
It's the same PP that's in the pic above on the yellow sheet of paper. You can see it in the upper right hand corner.
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I don't think it has any significance to the paint code if that's what you're asking. That number '2' appears in just about every broadcast card I've seen from 70 - 72. Case in point, my 72 Cutlass S is PNT 14 14 and has that 2 also. I've seen it on 442 and W30 car broadcast cars too.
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Actually Yes Joe. If the guy was lucky enough to find the actual Build sheet (not the broadcast card that was described) there would be a bypass code listed in box 107. It would also have the color listed and possibly a dupont paint code.
Yes, the paint code is on the build sheet. I ***-U-MEd that the question was "can you tell the original paint color from the -- on the cowl tag alone", which you cannot.
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Originally Posted by Allan R
I don't think it has any significance to the paint code if that's what you're asking. That number '2' appears in just about every broadcast card I've seen from 70 - 72. Case in point, my 72 Cutlass S is PNT 14 14 and has that 2 also. I've seen it on 442 and W30 car broadcast cars too.
Ok. Now do you match the broadcast card to the car. I don't see any numbers matching the vin number other than the 34487. Thanks. Greg
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Originally Posted by Allan R
A broadcast card will not have a bypass color code listed on it.
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Yes, the paint code is on the build sheet. I ***-U-MEd that the question was "can you tell the original paint color from the -- on the cowl tag alone", which you cannot.
We both agree on this. I didn't make that assumption you did though.
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Ok. Now do you match the broadcast card to the car. I don't see any numbers matching the vin number other than the 34487. Thanks. Greg
The broadcast card is a Fisher Body Works document. So is the Cowl tag. If you're looking to match up anything, the Cowl Tag will match up with the broadcast card. The VIN is not related to the broadcast card or cowl tag except for being mounted on the same car. You're not alone on this; a fair number of people seem to think the cowl tag has to match the VIN and that's not the case.

HOWEVER, the VIN can be used to match up components like the chassis and engine as they will have a VIN derivative stamped on them. What is a VIN derivative? It's the Brand/year/plant/serial number of the car. So your engine would have that on the engine stamping pad located to the front of the #1 cylinder and the frame would have it here
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Originally Posted by Allan R
The broadcast card is a Fisher Body Works document. So is the Cowl tag. If you're looking to match up anything, the Cowl Tag will match up with the broadcast card. The VIN is not related to the broadcast card or cowl tag except for being mounted on the same car. You're not alone on this; a fair number of people seem to think the cowl tag has to match the VIN and that's not the case.

HOWEVER, the VIN can be used to match up components like the chassis and engine as they will have a VIN derivative stamped on them. What is a VIN derivative? It's the Brand/year/plant/serial number of the car. So your engine would have that on the engine stamping pad located to the front of the #1 cylinder and the frame would have it here
Ok. Got it. Thanks. Again
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