I don't understand why someone would go through all the trouble making this car into a W-30 and end up with a striping job like this one on the vehicle

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/3416260262.html

Seems over-priced in my opinion...

 

Why did you stripe it like that?

 

Not my car. Re-read post.

 

Just effing with you man! Who would do that? Good question!

 

Well, he said in the description it was an $8 paint job.....

 

By the way... your video kicks *** ! I must have watched it 3 or 4 times just to see your poor dog trying to balance in the backseat during WOT ! I have a 10yr old golden retriever and I was cracking up thinking of him doing the same dance in the backseat.

 

Good point ! At least he isn't trying to mislead us or anything...

 

"...correct 1971 Olds 442 engine with "c" heads
dual poit distrbutor
hedman heads
Pait was $8
Wheels are 2 years olds
sheetmetal is origial

I don't need help selling it..."

Oh yes you do, and with those stripes it certainly is rare as stated .

 

I would not call that a tribute.More like a mockery.
The $8,000.00 job incuded the bucket of filler.It doesn't look real crisp.

 

Thanks. I had a blast making it too! My dog is a 10 year old as well. He is my best friend. He does just fine with the acceleration, but not so good on the decceleration. I don't usually stop like that but someone got in the way. You should see him if I'm leaving on a Friday or Saturday night in the Olds. He KNOWS I am going to a car show. I walk around with him and he cruises up right under your hand to get some pets. He needs no leash. I have had only one complaint and I told the guy the dog was smarter than him. LOL!

 

I have seen this car somewhere before as I remember the angled stripes as well.

I am getting more amused by ads. I may list my car soon for the heck of it and note that if it was a 1957 Ferrari Testa Rossa Prototype it would sell for 16 million but alas it is just an Oldsmobile so I'll let it go for 2 million.

You should see some of the guys trying to sell 03/04 marauders most are very realistic but sometimes it is the normal I put 20k into it after buying it for 20k plus I really love it and don't want to sell it but if you are dumb enough (or wealthy enough) then I'll sell it for 50k even though its only worth 18k.

Of course I always say its easier to lower your price than raise it so why not ask for more than you think you can get.

 

lmao !!!!

 

x2

 

"I have up for sale an extremely cool 1971 442 w-30 convertible. This is a tribute car, there were only 110 of these cars ever made. I would be asking close to 80K for it if it was real. It has all the correct parts from a 1971 442 w-30 hardtop I parted out to build this car. It has the correct W-25 hood (worth 2500 by itself) it has the W-25 rear wing factory spoiler, it has the highly sought after dual gate shifter. It has a perfect brand new interior, The motor is a rebuilt correct 1971 Olds 442 engine with "c" heads. Runs a stout turbo 400 transmission. It has after market dual poit distrbutor, it has a brand new chrome holley 700 CFM carb, edlebrock aluminum intake, hedman heads, factory dual exhaust with factory mufflers and trumpet tips. Has an aftermarket white face Sun tach in the dash. A factory Year One blueprinted W-30 cam. New gas tank and straps. New Radiator. a 3 inch thick pile of receipts spent on this car to make it flawless Pait was $8 in Viking Blue with white stripes. Wheels are 2 years olds Wheel vintiques chrome SS1's with BF Goodrich T/A tires with about 50 miles on them. The top is new. The stereo is an aftermarket CD player with 6 by 9's in the back (no holes cut) all sheetmetal is origial and virtually untouched with bondo, the front fenders were replaced with new has the red fenderwells (not installled but included), runs a 3,42 rearend with 10 bolt. If you have any questions about this rare car call or text me at 864-981-2400....I don't need help selling it and serious buyers only need inquire, no joy rides. David"
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Evidently, then, c head are now correct for 1971 W30's? H's are not necessary.
"It has all the correct parts from a 1971 442 w-30 hardtop... correct 1971 Olds 442 engine with "c" heads."

 

Sounds like he didn't know the value of what he parted out, assuming it was a complete unwrecked car.

 

or that he didn't know that C heads weren't 71 W30 heads

 

What correct parts?
H-heads? No.
7041257 carb? No mention of it.
1112034 distributor? No. Aftermarket dual-point.
OLDS W455 intake? No. Edelbrock intake.
OW TH400 trans? No.
Original red fenderwells? No.
Year One W30 cam? That has to be a real dud.

So,where are these rare W30 parts?
If the car is a tribute,clone,fake,imposter,or whatever,there is nothing rare about it.

 

It's so rare, it floats.

 

Man, you guys are brutal !

That's what I LOVE about this place

 

Sorry,but I just see way too much of this. The car is a CUTLASS.Even if it had a complete 71 H-headed W30 engine in it,you still have a CUTLASS with fancy parts,and it doesn't boost the value of the car.You may get a few more dollars out of the car,but not enough to merit having those rare parts in there.
Heck,the striping isn't even a clone of the real striping.Definitley one of a dumbass kind though.

 

Not much there for $33K.

 

well, at least he/she admits its a "recreation car" but then as Brian mentioned, it really isn't even close to a W30, its more of a modified to my (the present owner's) liking car. Which is fine but don't pass it off as something its not or even close to.

 

What saddens me the most is that with this car, this guy lives up to the ignorant Southerner stereotype most people subscribe to. I personally know people in South Carolina (some in the same general Upstate area) who know better than what this guy has done with this car, so it's not the region- it's the car builder.

Idiots rule.

 

I'm $3300 dollar bid for it.

 

Jimmy, My golden "Red Dog" liked your video too.

 

That's everywhere and anywhere.... Now if the picture had a engine hanging from the tree... well then

I for one didn't think anything like that (nor I am implying you thought I did) I just went right to "uninformed owner trying to pass off the car to someone else as something more than it is." In the end thatoften what it is

 

Hey, Wait a minute.

 

I never inferred that - did anyone else?

Anyway, I posed a few questions to the guy, basically if it was a 4-4-2 to begin with. This was his response:

No....Its not am m-code car...and thats why Its third less than a real fully restored or #1 condition car...the parts by themselves aré worth what i'm asking...now if you want original and documented....i have s 1970 cutlass SX convertible that is one of the best documented SX convertibles in the country...numbers matching....build sheet , protecto plate...window sticker...even the bill of sale from the dealership...this is 1 of 793 built...and is loaded with rallye pac....correct clamshell sport mirrors...Rear cutout bumper...runs with correct E heads and factory exhaust manifolfds....Its $33,000 also....frame up resto car..All panels original to car...i guess it just depends How deep your pockets aré for a real F headed w-30 convertible....mines priced for the person who wants a Viking blue w-30 droptop but can only afford the next best thing....we can't All live like paul teutul Sr....

So I said, "Sorry but I was asking if it was a real 442, not w-30," since he mentioned the M-code. He responded:

"M" code is the letter designation in VIN to indicate that it is a 442....of course in 72 they made it a dealer option and they just added the numbers on the back and sides....unless you have the build sheet or window sticker there is no way to prove in 1972 what it was...but to answer your question.....this car started out as a cutlass supreme convertible..I created what it is now....

It's simply a poorly done 4-4-2 clone, and adding even more poorly done W-30 stripes doesn't make it any more of a "tribute."

 

You must have been itching to correct him, but likely wouldn't have been worthwhile. And here all this time I thought 1971 442s VINs all started out with 344 even if they were different letter production plants

So I would hazard a guess that his personal knowledge of Oldsmobile's determined the shape of the stripe.

 

I HATE those stripes! Terrible! Maybe if he spent $8001 on the paint job he would have got the correct stripes.

 

" It has all the correct parts from a 1971 442 w-30 "
"Has an aftermarket white face Sun tach in the dash"

I didn't know they put Sun tachs in the dash in 71 instead of the rally pack gages.

 

lmao!!! love this thread!!!!!

 

It's a tribute to a pile of sh*t!

 

So,the parts that he doesn't really have,are worth $33,000.00? I can't imagine what my complete matching 71 W30 4-spd hardtop is worth?
Now he can't decipher a VIN?
It looks like a very long-term relationship between car & owner.
If I won the lottery,I would buy it,then have it crushed,put the poor thing out of its misery.

 

Monstrosity

 

for 10 - 15k it might be worth it. But again since my car isn't a 1971 Hemi Cuda Convertible worth $1.5mm it must be worth $500k to someone - any offers

 

I wish this guy would come on this site and read this thread ! Maybe he would change his way of thinking ..... If I had just joined this site today , and read this thread , I would probably be like wtf ! ..... BUT , I realize that if your going to have the " Real Deal " or a " Tribute Car " You should at the very least represent it right .

 

Yeah, I wonder about that, guy may have honestly put his heart and soul into it and loves the car, shows up to this site and many of us are ripping it. Though I'm glad when you guys post this stuff as it seems more in the realm of protecting/educating each other from purchasing something that isn't what sellers say it is.

 

There's nothing wrong about civilly ripping apart a car when it's based on facts. The guy has put it on the open market for the rest of us to see so he should be able to separate his ego from a material possession like a car. If he is a newbie restorer he can learn from this if he's open to opinions and, again, we're open to being civil about our criticism.

 

I say, NO CIVILITY. Not when he did something like this. It's just plain screwed up! If I went to look at that car without benefit of the internet, what would I find? A pile of not what I expected to see. It's not even close to being a tribute, clone, copy, whatever.