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Hello, So was going through a bunch of pictures the PO had for my 70 442 and came across the original bill of sale. I'm wondering if this is any sort of proof of what I have. It currently has all of the items needed to make it a W30 but as we all know those can be added. My question is did they (W30's) come with a specific designation on the BOS or are these items just things that the original owner could have just wanted on the car and it not be a true W30. Here's a breakdown in case the picture doesn't come though so well.
Fiberglass hood dual intakes-$$157.98
4 Speed Trans-$184.80
Anti spin axel-$42.13
Air Conditioner-$380.04
Tinted Glass-$38.97
Wide Oval tires-$26.33
Super Stock Wheels-$90.58
Sport Steering Wheel-$15.80
Deluxe Radio-$69.51
Stereo Tape Player-$133.76
Sport Style Outside Mirrors-$22.12
Console-$61.09
Rocket Rally Pac-$84.26
Special Paint-$83.20
Accessory Group-$28.01
Undercoat-$25.00
Hello, So was going through a bunch of pictures the PO had for my 70 442 and came across the original bill of sale. I'm wondering if this is any sort of proof of what I have. It currently has all of the items needed to make it a W30 but as we all know those can be added. My question is did they (W30's) come with a specific designation on the BOS or are these items just things that the original owner could have just wanted on the car and it not be a true W30. Here's a breakdown in case the picture doesn't come though so well. Fiberglass hood dual intakes-$$157.98 4 Speed Trans-$184.80 Anti spin axel-$42.13 Air Conditioner-$380.04 Tinted Glass-$38.97 Wide Oval tires-$26.33 Super Stock Wheels-$90.58 Sport Steering Wheel-$15.80 Deluxe Radio-$69.51 Stereo Tape Player-$133.76 Sport Style Outside Mirrors-$22.12 Console-$61.09 Rocket Rally Pac-$84.26 Special Paint-$83.20 Accessory Group-$28.01 Undercoat-$25.00
Hello, So was going through a bunch of pictures the PO had for my 70 442 and came across the original bill of sale. I'm wondering if this is any sort of proof of what I have. It currently has all of the items needed to make it a W30 but as we all know those can be added. My question is did they (W30's) come with a specific designation on the BOS or are these items just things that the original owner could have just wanted on the car and it not be a true W30. Here's a breakdown in case the picture doesn't come though so well.
Fiberglass hood dual intakes-$$157.98
4 Speed Trans-$184.80
Anti spin axel-$42.13
Air Conditioner-$380.04
Tinted Glass-$38.97
Wide Oval tires-$26.33
Super Stock Wheels-$90.58
Sport Steering Wheel-$15.80
Deluxe Radio-$69.51
Stereo Tape Player-$133.76
Sport Style Outside Mirrors-$22.12
Console-$61.09
Rocket Rally Pac-$84.26
Special Paint-$83.20
Accessory Group-$28.01
Undercoat-$25.00
Grand Total for the car-$4927.54
Why are you passing off paperwork for a car that you don't own?
WTHIRTY1 I just sent you a PM. This was a great catch on your part. As I said in my post I was looking at paperwork the PO had for my/his car that was on a thumb drive and came across this sales slip. I didn't even bother to check the VIN. What a bone headed mistake. It never occurred to me that someone would have a picture of a sales receipt in with other pictures that wasn't for their car. This would explain a little bit about why the guy told me he had no paperwork proving what it was...or more specifically what it might be..a true W30 car. I was a bit disappointed when I originally found this as I thought it was proof that his/my car was not as he claimed it to be. Very sorry for the confusion and maybe there is hope that my car could still be a W30. I do have a picture of it from 1981 sporting the equipment that we all know comes with a W30 car so maybe there is still hope that it is. My apologies WTHIRTY1, I'm not sure where the PO got this picture. Let me know if you'd like me to send the digital copy of the receipt to you. Rob.
I think people misunderstand what the high-cammed w-30 is. It's a very grumpy drag car. It's not just a "better 442" that's a status symbol. You're going to know if that's what you have; looking for paperwork is sort of irrelevant. Does it idle badly? Is it missing most options? Do you need second gear before you get across the traffic light? Are you at 4000 rpm in top gear at 70 mph? They're race cars, not boomer trophies.
I think people misunderstand what the high-cammed w-30 is. It's a very grumpy drag car. It's not just a "better 442" that's a status symbol. You're going to know if that's what you have; looking for paperwork is sort of irrelevant. Does it idle badly? Is it missing most options? Do you need second gear before you get across the traffic light? Are you at 4000 rpm in top gear at 70 mph? They're race cars, not boomer trophies.
I remember starting off in 2nd during 'normal' driving in my 70 W30 4spd.....
Hi hurst68olds-My car is a automatic (his/hers) with aftermarket AC installed and pretty much all of the pieces that a true W30 has as far as I know. I'm not claiming it is a W30 and I never would unless I had the documents to back it up.
Koda-In my opinion paperwork to back up what car you have is relevant if you care about the value of something you purchased and this is not a "boomer trophy" as you said, in fact that's kind of pretty demeaning. This car represents a lot of work to get to the point of being able to own one after a lifetime of wanting one.
Hello, So was going through a bunch of pictures the PO had for my 70 442 and came across the original bill of sale. I'm wondering if this is any sort of proof of what I have.
This gets more bogus as each day passes. Why on June 21st is there a Craiglsist ad posted for your aegean aqua "This is a superb example of a TRUE 442 W-30 car. Fully redone, frame ON restoration completed in 2016."
Hi hurst68olds-My car is a automatic (his/hers) with aftermarket AC installed and pretty much all of the pieces that a true W30 has as far as I know. I'm not claiming it is a W30 and I never would unless I had the documents to back it up.
Koda-In my opinion paperwork to back up what car you have is relevant if you care about the value of something you purchased and this is not a "boomer trophy" as you said, in fact that's kind of pretty demeaning. This car represents a lot of work to get to the point of being able to own one after a lifetime of wanting one.
What I meant by my comment is the W-30 is not a "better 442." I specifically said the high cammed version, by which I meant the stick shift, as that is to what the bill of sale above refers to and is what I thought we were discussing. The automatic 442 W-30s could be had with air conditioning and had the same came as the non W automatic 442. In which case, it IS a "better" 442 as it is the same performance, just better trim and price.
The performance version, the high cam stick shift, however, is not what I would call a boomer trophy. I don't want a 328 cam w-30, it is going to drive like *** on the street and drink down every gas station in town. I have enough cam in this H/O I have, and it came to me that way, and I know it's not a 328 cam. I'm in my early 40s, a good driver, and I know my limitations. A guy who was around and old enough to matter when these cars came out is MINIMUM 70s. Statistically, you think he's sharp enough to be doing it (drag racing)? I'd say most old guys with the high cam w-30s don't drag race them anymore, and keep them as trophies to go to car shows with, and, while that's fine (their car, their choices, etc) it's owning a car that made significant compromises and concessions to be a drag race car.....that isn't drag raced. People have made the comment before about Corvettes; by the time you are old enough to afford one, you are too old to drive it the way it was designed. The only thing I am demeaning is people fooling themselves by buying a drag car version of the 442 as a status symbol as opposed to buying it to use it as it was intended, which is either official track drag racing, or unofficial traffic light drag racing.
Nothing bogus about this. It was an honest mistake on my part by posting a picture of the sales receipt the the PO had on a thumb drive. The CL add you are referring to was his add, not mine. He claimed it was a true W30 but with no paperwork associated with it. End of story. When I found the picture I assumed it was legit and he just didnt tell me about it because it basically proved that it wasn't a W30 car. It would be nice if this whole thread just went away right? I think hurst68olds may be correct...maybe he found this sales receipt somewhere and used it for a build. Can you think of any other way that someone in Tacoma Washington would end up with a picture of a sales receipt for a car you own?
Not sure how you managed to overlook the second line that calls out the 4 speed when your car is an automatic.
It wasn't overlooked. I was assuming he swapped out the trans at some point, that's why I wrote out everything on the BOS as is(was) to see if anyone could decipher what the car was. In case you haven't picked it up I'm not to familiar with Olds's as this is the first one I've owned. Sorry to have inadvertently offended you. I would like to know how your BOS ended up on my thumb drive though. Have you posted it somewhere before? Do you have the paper copy of it? Just curious....
Did you compare your vin to the vin on the Bill Of Sale? I would think that would be square one. Car is beautiful. No Olds person can deny that. Hope you enjoy it.
Did you compare your vin to the vin on the Bill Of Sale? I would think that would be square one. Car is beautiful. No Olds person can deny that. Hope you enjoy it.
As stated above a few times I did not, I know a bone head mistake but seriously I am sitting here right now looking at a stack of probably 150 photos and this was right in the middle of them. Never even occurred to me that it wasn't for this car.
