dnmfranco

Hi looking for good quality 14 by 6 1968 trim rings. These have the brushed appearance. Ty Dean

Paladin31

Hey Dean I have three (3) rings that are 14", brushed finish. Please take a look & see if these are what you need. Thanks, Brett

dnmfranco

Hi Brett ty for responding, did these come off a 68 if so they are probably them. If so how much are you looking to get? Also what remains of a Ram Rod do you have ? Dean

dnmfranco

Brett the ones I have on the car have open valve stem area do these? ty Dean

Paladin31

I'm not sure of the year. I can measure the depth tomorrow evening. I only have the short block left. Well have a few small items but nothing of consequence. I only had a bulk parts car. Saved the motor and a few things. The 69 was a different story for another time. Will post info tomorr

dnmfranco

Wow you can still do something w it. Are you retaining the block, are you interested in selling if you don't use? ty Dean

Paladin31

I'm not sure of the year. I can measure the depth tomorrow evening. I only have the short block left. Well have a few small items but nothing of consequence. I only had a bulk parts car. Saved the motor and a few things. The 69 was a different story for another time. Will post info tomorrow. Brett

Paladin31

Wow that was surreal. No I am keeping the block have Special project for it

dnmfranco

oh good you should let me know if you need anything have TO 68 rear as well as a whole entire body. It was originally a W-30 but of course motor/tranny gone

Paladin31

Really. Hmmmm. Will have to sleep on that Later

Paladin31

I did a little research, my rings are an early 14x7 more brushed finished than bright, not 14x6, too deep. IMHO you need a 14x6 with about a 2" to 2-1/4" depth. sorry to get your hopes up, but I wish you all the best. Later

WTony

Dean Im told they are still available from GM. Pricey though. A friend of mine got a set about a year ago and they were the 68 style.

dnmfranco

Tony thanks for the lead will follow up on it - Dean

wmachine

Correct! One indicator (not proof) of '68 rings is that the valve stem hole is not closed, it is open to the inside. Because it is much shallower. Another indicator is a step in the outer ring.
The only difference between the '68 and '69 (the only early years with 14" x 6") is the '68 brushed finish. My understanding is that there are very close repops out there that have the shiny '69 finish. But OEM '68s are getting really scarce. I rarely see them even on cars at Olds meets.

wmachine

Dean, please let us know what you find out. I find that hard to believe. It may be that *something* is available, but not correct '68s. Lots of guys don't understand that what GM determines as correct replacement part are *not* always like the originals.
That said, the '79 edition of the parts catalog still shows the '68 ring is available, but not the '69.
FYI, '68 part number is 1383607.

WTony

I have not seen a repop out there that is even close to the same lip as the 68-69 SS2. The closest I've seen was a Mustang trim ring, but it was visibly different. I searched for years before I found a set from a GTO guy at Carlisle. The 69 GTO 14x6 use the same trim ring as the 69 SS2. The Firebird is different.

dnmfranco

First off thank you all for the help and knowledge. Went online under gm restoration parts. There you have to submit your query by email only. Then they get back to you far as availability in your models year. So I am hoping that is the correct resource, and yes Tony have not seen these anywhere !!!!! Tough year on 68s with some of this stuff. So please if any other suggestions please continue you guys have been great thus far

wmachine

Here are the repops I'm referring to. Supposed to be GM application.

Paladin31

Kurt those are interessting, to me anyway, for a completely different reason. Take note of the small flange on the inner/lower circumference of those + the grips are four (4) evenly spaced pieces that resemble gear teeth w/sping jaws. I had heard that there were 2 main suppliers of rings in the 68-70 timeframe and these were the 'earlier supplier' style. The 'latter supplier' used the stainless grip rings that circled the outer edge of the major diameter. Im wondering now if the two supplier story was correct....any thoughts?

scrappie

What is the height on these when lying on a flat surface? and the diameter roughly? I may have some used?

wmachine

I do recall there was something about different grips, but I don't know (or remember at least) anything about the details. I'm not too versed in trim rings.
Do I have any thoughts about these grips shown? No, as reproductions they could have anything from correct grips to bubblegum to hold them on. I can, however, compare them to some old ones I have if it would help.

WTony

Kurt I've seen that style before too.
Here's pics of the ford and correct 69 gm rings to see the difference. I have a close up pic of the lip somewhere on my computer. I'll post after I find them.

WTony

Ahh! I found them!
You can see in the close up how the lip has a raised line and the inside edge is almost cupped before it turns down.

dnmfranco

Got a reply back gm resto parts nothing oh well. Dean

hurst68olds

Here are a few pics of what I believe to be an original '68 SSII trim ring.

dnmfranco

That is it dean

hurst68olds

here are some "summer of '68" wheel/ring pics

cdrod

Dean:
I have a few trim rings with the 4 clips spaced evenly around the ring. I've never really looked too closely at the lip as these were part of a bulk parts buy and not something I was looking for at the time; could be what you need. I will stop by my shop tomorrow and snap a pic or 2 for you.
Rodney

scrappie

What about these: They are in decent shape. There is only one that has some light curb scratches on it. I've had them probably 15 yrs.

wmachine

Tony, what Dan posted is what I understand to be correct for '68 too. Right down to the brushed finish. The outer ring is not brushed, has two steps with the inner step being higher. The brushed finish is heavily enough brushed that it is virtually non-reflective. The rings you posted a really different than that.
I can't say I'm 100% on this, but this has been my understanding for some time now, but that, of course, doesn't make it right.
If what Dan posted is correct, you can see how the repop ones I posted are virtually the same except for finish.
This will be interesting to get to the bottom of this.
BTW, the rings were changed to polished in '69 because there were too many complaints that the wheels as a whole looked too dull.

dnmfranco

great please do and ty - Dean

dnmfranco

Thanks for pics are they the brushed surface, I couldn't exactly tell from pics Dean

scrappie

Finish is hard to tell what it is. I was thinking they could use a good buffing to get them to shine but maybe that is the way they are supposed to be? I'll try to get some pix but I really can't be positive what the finish is? Do the brushed ones have no shine at all?

dnmfranco

Okay if you look at 68Hurstolds post, there he has a correct pic of one. Hoping that might help you far telling if it is. The brushed ones definitely do not get that gloss shine to them - hope this helps Dean

WTony

Kurt, I took that pic at Glenn Johnson's place when we were up in Mass. for the 09 nationals. I think thats when you and I finally met?
He also had 4 of the original 69, NOS in the old style box, trim rings that are the same as what I posted. I will have to look for the photo's but I think I took a pic of the part # of the NOS box? He's the guy I go to for 69 info, thats how I found out what was supposed to be on these wheels. I had thought that the brushed style, which I've seen on a couple cars, did have the same lip as the 69? But again, I could be wrong about that?
In any case, the pic I posted is definitely the 69 style and has been confirmed by Tim Murphy as well. He was with us at Glenns that same day.

wmachine

Bill just posted these '69 rings for sale with some good pics.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tml#post535520

They look just like the ones from my earlier posts, and what Dan posted for '68s. Again, '68s and '69s being the same except for the brushed section on the '68s.

cdrod

Dean:
I checked my rings but they seem to have a different profile than what you're looking for, and the valve stem notch is different too - see attached pics.

Anybody know what year these are? I have never seen rings like these before with only 4 clips on the back. I've always owned 71 or 72 models; could these be for a 70 model? Thx!

Rodney

wmachine

A closed valve stem hole tell you without further looking that it is not correct for '68-'69. First thing to look for is the open ended hole.

allyolds68

I've never seen these in person but I've been told the Pontiac trim rings are the same.

Page 295, part number T110F

http://www.amesperf.com/catalogs/G29.pdf

driverchoice

[QUOTE][I've never seen these in person but I've been told the Pontiac trim rings are the same/QUOTE] NO THERE NOT I THOUGHT THE SAME THING BUT THE PONTIAC RINGS (RALLEY 1 ) HAVE A SHALLOWER VALVE STEM NOTCH THE OLDS ARE HIGHER LIKE A CHEVY RING