Lansing Build Sheet
October 25th, 2011, 07:33 AM
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Lansing Build Sheet
I desperately want my car’s build sheet. I ran my 1970 98 almost out of gas and jacked up the rear. It appeared the gas tank had never been moved judging by the straps having been in only one position. The guy I bought it from who had it for half it’s life said he never dropped the tank. I disconnected the gas tank ground and took the two bolts out of the straps. I had a jack under the tank and dropped it as far as the hoses would allow. I got my flashlight, wedged myself so I could see between the top of the tank and the body and....drum roll please....no build sheet. It was what I expected, but was still disappointing. More ammunition to another thread where people said they have never seen a Lansing build sheet on top the tank.
October 25th, 2011, 11:33 AM
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October 25th, 2011, 02:39 PM
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I used to have the build sheet for my '66 Starfire (which I believe were all lansing built) I think it still resides (in taterred pieces) in a drawer in my toolbox. I will see if I can find it if anyone thinks that data may be of assistance. I found that one under my back seat. That car has long since been crushed unfortunately.
I still have not pulled the back seat out of my newly acquired '66 Starfire to see if it's there. Maybe tonight after work...
-Jeff
I still have not pulled the back seat out of my newly acquired '66 Starfire to see if it's there. Maybe tonight after work...
-Jeff
October 26th, 2011, 02:30 AM
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This kind of thread keeps appearing.
The build sheet may or may not be left somewhere in the car. There is no guarantee that any particular car left the factory with its build sheet. Some production lines would remove the sheet, others might not have bothered.
I found 3 build sheets in a Lincoln I once owned, one under the back seat, one tucked into the dash, and the last in the rear drivers side door. I got lucky, of the 10 American cars I have owned it was the only one I found any build sheets in, it's fair to say I wasn't looking for them, I came across them while doing other jobs.
Roger.
The build sheet may or may not be left somewhere in the car. There is no guarantee that any particular car left the factory with its build sheet. Some production lines would remove the sheet, others might not have bothered.
I found 3 build sheets in a Lincoln I once owned, one under the back seat, one tucked into the dash, and the last in the rear drivers side door. I got lucky, of the 10 American cars I have owned it was the only one I found any build sheets in, it's fair to say I wasn't looking for them, I came across them while doing other jobs.
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October 26th, 2011, 04:20 PM
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I have checked every nook and cranny of my 1970 W-30 and not a build sheet anywhere. The only hidden paper I found was some tag that perhaps was attached to the springs of the rear seat, but it was unreadable. I am only guessing it was attached cause it had one of those reinforced holes in it.
October 26th, 2011, 09:03 PM
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I 'don't hate to be a spoil sport'>>>>cuz I found mine tonight, after reading the threads, somebody mentioned looking inside the seats. I broke mine down, inside the back and under the plastic panel there it layed, the Holy Grail!
October 26th, 2011, 09:08 PM
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That is not a build sheet. Those cards are behind the back seat, under the carpet and other places. They have some of the options and many lansing w-30s are only documented by those cards. The build sheets are a full page will all options. I will see if I have one to post.
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October 26th, 2011, 09:21 PM
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Not my intent to downplay your find, it has important information on your car and more than many have. Congratulations on more documentation to help better understand your car. Two of the many options on your car are listed on that card. Lee
October 26th, 2011, 09:25 PM
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Kurt, IIRC Cutlassgal (Sandy) has a Lansing car and she did find her build sheet (not broadcast card) stuffed between the jute and rear parcel shelf. I have found broadcast sheets for my car, but never a build (Lansing). Wonder why M didn't put them in when other production plants did?
October 26th, 2011, 09:28 PM
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I'm just speculating here on what I heard in the past from the owner/president of an Olds dealership in Oregon in the 60s and early 70s. That dealership got cars from both the Fremont and the Lansing plants but he much preferred getting cars from Lansing. His impression was that the "quality control" at Lansing was of a much higher standard than that at Fremont. Perhaps the build sheets are a good example. Build sheets were not supposed to be included with the car when it left the plant but, as we have seen, there are tons of Fremont build sheets out there but no Lansing build sheets that we know of. It would be easy to conclude that Lansing played fully by that rule whereas Fremont did not. I don't know how deep the issue of "quality control" went, but this just might be a simple example of what he meant.
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October 26th, 2011, 09:32 PM
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That is a similar story that I heard. I would like Sandy to post the Lansing Build Sheet so I can show it to a friend. We know they were created and it is possible a few did get into the cars. I would love a copy of one.
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October 26th, 2011, 09:34 PM
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All this sheet tells you is the cars build date on the line, it's a 442 hardtop, A01-Tinted windows, Trim Black bench seat, painted twilight blue upper and lower, with options C60 - Manual AC U80 - Rear radio speaker
October 26th, 2011, 09:53 PM
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Yes, I remember that well. For everyone's reading pleasure https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ild-sheet.html
October 27th, 2011, 05:27 AM
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Both of my cars are from Linden NJ and both had build sheets. 442 had 2 of them while my SX just had 1 so far. My SX is not restored but my 442 is. Hopefully i can find another one in the SX when i redo the interior.
October 27th, 2011, 05:35 AM
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Yes, I remember that well. For everyone's reading pleasure https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ild-sheet.html
Its crazy, when I click on that I see a buildsheet with FREMONT printed on it.
Her car is not a Lansing car, it was built at Fremont. Thus the reason why she found a build sheet.
October 27th, 2011, 05:51 AM
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Yep.... Sorry to dissapoint you guys, but she is a Fremont built car. Someday when I get that package tray replaced, I'll HAVE the rest of that build sheet out of there! Oooohhhhh..... I want it soooo bad, lol! 
But at least I know where it is!
Her Broadcast card is stapled to the springs of the back seat bottom. I didn't even try to pry those evil looking staples or whatever they are holding it on, loose. Figured I'd tear the card all apart before I could pry those things loose, lol!
But at least I know where it is!Her Broadcast card is stapled to the springs of the back seat bottom. I didn't even try to pry those evil looking staples or whatever they are holding it on, loose. Figured I'd tear the card all apart before I could pry those things loose, lol!
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October 27th, 2011, 07:34 AM
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Allan it has the light blue buckets and console, 933 isn't that the correctr code for these, not a black bench?? Am confused sir
October 27th, 2011, 08:42 AM
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Re: Teepo. I thought it was a Lansing car. I guess the hunt for the elusive Lansing build sheets will continue.........
October 27th, 2011, 10:03 AM
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October 27th, 2011, 02:02 PM
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Have another one out of a friend of mine's 1969 H/O, was under the carpet and jute, terribly faded. Not the best copy as it was from a picture I took from a camera and not a scan, I'll try to get a scan of it. 'Type' barely shows, in person you can see better and the instructions at the bottom show better, the "W46 - Delete Paint Stripes... etc..."
October 27th, 2011, 02:46 PM
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I wouldnt call those build sheets. Every GM build sheet Ive seen, from all the brands and multiple plants look like this.
Lansing sheets did exist, there are two taped on the windshield of this 65.
Lansing sheets did exist, there are two taped on the windshield of this 65.
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October 27th, 2011, 05:59 PM
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Jeff, those are not "build sheets", those are "broadcast cards".
What differentiates the 2 is that the broadcast cards are Fisher Body papers, and only have to do with bodies. Build sheet are chassis assembly line papers and are related to the chassis assembly. Understandably, the broadcast cards are much more limited in the information they contain. The broadcast cards *can* help document a car, though!
What differentiates the 2 is that the broadcast cards are Fisher Body papers, and only have to do with bodies. Build sheet are chassis assembly line papers and are related to the chassis assembly. Understandably, the broadcast cards are much more limited in the information they contain. The broadcast cards *can* help document a car, though!
October 27th, 2011, 06:39 PM
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Ok,
I always thought the Broadcast card was just the 4" x 8" card that had 'Broadcast" in the upper left and not the 'full sheet' titled 'Oldsmobile Production Code' with the added options on it, so I guess those are both considered 'broadcast' cards then?
I always thought the Broadcast card was just the 4" x 8" card that had 'Broadcast" in the upper left and not the 'full sheet' titled 'Oldsmobile Production Code' with the added options on it, so I guess those are both considered 'broadcast' cards then?
Jeff, those are not "build sheets", those are "broadcast cards".
What differentiates the 2 is that the broadcast cards are Fisher Body papers, and only have to do with bodies. Build sheet are chassis assembly line papers and are related to the chassis assembly. Understandably, the broadcast cards are much more limited in the information they contain. The broadcast cards *can* help document a car, though!
What differentiates the 2 is that the broadcast cards are Fisher Body papers, and only have to do with bodies. Build sheet are chassis assembly line papers and are related to the chassis assembly. Understandably, the broadcast cards are much more limited in the information they contain. The broadcast cards *can* help document a car, though!
October 27th, 2011, 08:15 PM
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Excuse me, but what TK-65 is showing IS an Assembly Build Sheet, however it is from the Freemont Plant!
The closest thing you are going to get to a Lansing Assembly Build Sheet is the "dealer invoice" which by the way lists all of the options
The closest thing you are going to get to a Lansing Assembly Build Sheet is the "dealer invoice" which by the way lists all of the options
October 27th, 2011, 08:43 PM
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The wording above it describes it as what "every GM build sheet from the 1960s looks like", as an example to show the previous poster who thought he had a Lansing build sheet. If a Lansing sheet is ever found, its probably going to look like the sheet I posted.
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May 29th, 2023, 09:50 AM
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The last several threads I read that touched on this topic suggested that while there may be the (very) occasional exception, almost all cars from Lansing had the build sheets removed prior to delivery.
