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Old December 20th, 2020, 08:00 AM
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What's the difference between "stock" and "bone stock?"

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Old December 20th, 2020, 09:33 AM
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Old December 20th, 2020, 09:43 AM
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Old December 20th, 2020, 09:46 AM
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Semantics. You can make it mean anything you like it to mean. There's a lot of fuzziness around the edges of all that. Just like the difference between a Condition 2 or Condition 3 when getting close to the split.

To me, stock is having parts either OEM or OEM replacement, same specs, dimensions, etc. Like using R46SZ plugs in place of the original R46SX plugs. It's what they superseded to for stock replacement parts. Or a suitable cross-referenced Wix air filter instead of the GM filter.

Bone stock means to me that the car had ZERO modifications to the car. It came from the factory just the way you see it. A new, unmolested car driven home from the dealership and first parked in the driveway is BONE STOCK. Some may make allowances for exact replacement soft parts like exact replacement tires and belts/hoses/fluids, batteries, but then I consider that in a category you didn't mention- Factory Stock.

Any added options that didn't come from the factory but were available for that year/model are mods the way I see them. Add a 4-bbl to a 350 that came with a 2-bbl.= mod. Add the underdash factory 8-track to a car that didn't come with one= mod.

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Old December 20th, 2020, 10:27 AM
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Same way the term “original” gets tossed around. I’ve heard people describe there car as original then continue saying new paint, new upholstery etc etc.
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Old December 20th, 2020, 11:44 AM
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Coming from New England, it's like the difference between "wicked cool" and "wicked pissa cool".
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Old December 20th, 2020, 12:28 PM
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"Bone broth is essentially stock,"

Bone broth
is made by simmering the bones and connective tissue of animals. This highly nutritious stock is commonly used in soups, sauces, and gravies. It has also recently gained popularity as a health drink.
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I still can’t figure out “original miles.” What is the mileage on the car?!?

Don’t get me started on “mint” condition!
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Old December 20th, 2020, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bccan
I still can’t figure out “original miles.”
I can't figure out how someone can advertise an engine that's not in a car as "numbers matching"...
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Old December 21st, 2020, 06:17 AM
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I believe there are several varying degrees of stock.

1) Bone Stock = as assembled in factory, as delivered to dealership, as purchased by original owner. Maintained with that in mind by how many owners as a car has as long as kept original or restored to original.

2) Stock = same as above but with allowances. Replacement parts consistent with original configuration. As long as powertrain components are original units. Unenhanced rebuilds have no impact on status.

3) Stock but modded = my car. My powertrain, 350/350 combo with type O rear is original. To me that is the most important quality to any stock reference. However tons of mods prior to my ownership, aftermarket stereo, 4 wheel disc conversion, repainted from green to black, same with interior, wheels 15s, molding removed, etc.

4) Modded stock = An engine swap not matching original spec. Even if everything else is original. (455 in a otherwise stock 1972 350 CID 442, etc)

Modded = putting a 1969 Hurst/Olds entire powertrain in a 1979 Hurst/Olds. The kind of car that when you are asked if its stock you should immediately say no.

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Old December 21st, 2020, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 69CSHC
I believe there are several varying degrees of stock.
Then you probably believe there are several varying degrees of being pregnant...

Look, there are no legal definitions of "stock" or "bone stock". This is like arguing the distinctions of what's a big block vs a small block.

A car is stock if it is exactly the same as the configuration it was in when it left the factory. There's no fuzz on that. The slippery slope is replacement of normal wear items, which is why even organizations like AACA make distinctions of unrestored vs restored stock vehicles.
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What is the definition of "stock" in the phrase "stock car racing" as in "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing" (NASCAR)?
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
What is the definition of "stock" in the phrase "stock car racing" as in "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing" (NASCAR)?
"Stock" in "NASCAR" has about as much meaning as "442" in the 1970s...



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Old December 21st, 2020, 03:42 PM
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bone stock = you can see the bones (frame, etc) through the OEM rust holes
stock = all the parts were in stock when you put them on the car

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Is "brand new" newer than "new"?
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