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Old August 6th, 2013, 09:45 AM
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Why is there 2 different body style cutlass in 70 & 72?
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Old August 6th, 2013, 10:10 AM
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This is a confusing question. There were several body styles, not just two, both years, and lots of other years as well. 2-door, 4-door, hardtop, sedan, convertible, plus station wagons. Can you clarify your question a bit?
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Sorry, the 2 door cutlass sedan.Like in my post http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3957706536.html
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I still don't understand what you mean by "why" where there were different body styles.

There were different body styles because manufacturers were trying to meet the needs of different market segments and what people preferred in terms of styling. Some people had families and wanted four doors. Others didn't and wanted the more streamlined styling two-doors. Some preferred the hardtop look, others preferred a post.


You say you want a sedan, but I think the photo in your ad is of a hardtop. Also, you say "70/72" Cutlass. You won't consider a '71?


Here's a '70 Cutlass 2-door hardtop:





Here's a '70 Cutlass 2-door post. See the thicker pillar between the front and rear side glass?






Here's what you say you want. Looks like a hardtop to me.




Here's what you say you don't want.




I agree that there is a difference in the sculpting of the body just below the rear window where the one you want has a crease and the one you don't want has no crease. I don't know enough about these to be sure, but you may be looking at two different model years here? Also, one maybe a "fastback" style or something like that. As I say, I'm not sure. I expect others will know.

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Actually, to get to the point here, what your question SHOULD have been is, "why do these two 2-door hardtop Cutlasses have differently-shaped rear fenders below the rear side glass?

I mean, don't be ambiguous! Get right to the heart of the matter!
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The '70-'72 Supreme notchback (the one that you like) was meant to compete internally at GM with their other "personal luxury coupes", the Grand Prix and the Monte Carlo, which also have the formal roof lines. They were meant to mimic the convertible bodystyle to an extent.

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Boston Jim, not everybody here is going to give you all the crap you have received on this post. Most of us here did not major in English. With only 6 posts, I would like to welcome you to the site.
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The notchback roofline is perceived to be more "formal" and thus more "luxury". The different body styles were intended to capture different markets.

Why did Ford built fastback and notchback Mustangs in the 1960s and 70s? Because different people want different styling. Variety is the spice of life.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 01:48 PM
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The notch-back is the 'Holiday Coupe' body style.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 02:00 PM
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Ok I ment from 70 71 72,Hardtop yes,Sorry I don't know everything about these cars,I just know the style I want and don't want,Thanks redoldsman, I can take a lot of crap so I am ok lol I am a g body guy,that is going back to the older cars,
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Originally Posted by KDV
The notch-back is the 'Holiday Coupe' body style.
So is the fastback. Holiday Coupe is Oldsspeak for two door hardtop. Both the XX87 fastback and XX57 notchback body styles are called Holiday Coupe by Olds.
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Originally Posted by BOSTON_JIM
Ok I ment from 70 71 72,Hardtop yes,Sorry I don't know everything about these cars,I just know the style I want and don't want,Thanks redoldsman, I can take a lot of crap so I am ok lol I am a g body guy,that is going back to the older cars,
The 1970-72 notchback cars are ALL Cutlass Supremes (4257... body style). The others are all Cutlass/F-85/442 models.
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Originally Posted by BOSTON_JIM
I can take a lot of crap
Hey, I'm sorry if you thought what I was "giving you" was "crap." That was not my intent, regardless of how reoldsman may choose to characterize it.

I am entirely serious when I say that it might help to actually take some time next time to properly compose your question so that it is clear what you're actually asking.

Your first post in this entire thread was this:

Why is there 2 different body style cutlass in 70 & 72?
There's nobody who is going to tell me that this is not confusing.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 02:38 PM
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It's still a good question. I was in this hobby for years before I knew the difference.

Its still quite a mystery to folks the difference between a Supreme and a S body, and other things like hard top, Post, coupe, sedan etc. among the manufactures.

A neat lesson to learn is look at early fords like model A. That's confusing too, but that brought us to the modern era body styles.

Something for everyone. I guess it was all marketing to segments of our society.
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1970 olds cutlass 2door hardtop

Originally Posted by jaunty75
This is a confusing question. There were several body styles, not just two, both years, and lots of other years as well. 2-door, 4-door, hardtop, sedan, convertible, plus station wagons. Can you clarify your question a bit?
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Cutlass supreme 2 door hardtop

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
So is the fastback. Holiday Coupe is Oldsspeak for two door hardtop. Both the XX87 fastback and XX57 notchback body styles are called Holiday Coupe by Olds.
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Is there a reason for resurrecting this thread a decade later?
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Testing the "QUOTE" functionality?
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