The Clubhouse Place to chat about whatever's on your mind - doesn't have to be car related. NO POLITICS OR RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION ALLOWED.

Worst case scenario

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old October 22nd, 2013, 09:31 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Tedd Thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Ranch Ca.
Posts: 7,724
Worst case scenario

Being a landlord is a up and down affair, I've seen it all through the years,holes in walls,skip outs on the rent, trashed units, seven people move into a two room unit. It's all just part of the rental business, no biggie it's just part of the business of a slum lord .But there is one thing that will make you wish you had a nine to five job and that is when a tenant dies in a unit and no one knows about it for about two weeks. Happened yesterday. We lost a good tenant, he lost his life of course and sometime in the future my dad and I will have to clean up the mess.

The county will or has locked (sealed) the unit up and we won't be able to gain assess till a corner has determined cause of death usually thirty days or more and of course they have turned off all the electricity so everything will spoil even more than it is now. Some days are just better than others.....Tedd
Tedd Thompson is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 09:38 AM
  #2  
Collector of Stray 55's
 
Olds Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 1,015
ugh...worst I've had was a second floor waterbed (that I didn't know was there) got slashed in a domestic dispute and flooded the first floor below....

No bodies though -
Olds Dad is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 10:03 AM
  #3  
Administrator
 
oldcutlass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Poteau, Ok
Posts: 40,598
Geez, isn't that special.
oldcutlass is online now  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 10:44 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
L69 equipped's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Posts: 41
Hi Tedd,


Sorry to hear about this misfortunate act.

I can only speak as a retired Police Officer of 20 years from the South, but if that is what your local jurisdiction has informed you is "protocol" , I would be highly skeptical.

Any "unclassified" death investigation does require a supplemental investigation by the Coroner.

However, I have NEVER heard of a 30 day turnaround. In rare instances, DNA evidence may require that timeframe.

Furthermore, there would be absolutely no reason for the "crime scene" to be without power. If anything, they would want to preserve it in its unadulterated state.

As far as "securing the scene" , absolutely that is a priority even after the scene has been processed in order to rule out (or confirm) the coroner's findings in the cause of death.

I would ask to speak to the “lead Investigator” and explain your circumstances. I am sure that something more professional can be worked out.

Just my 2 cent.


Dave
L69 equipped is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 12:55 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
m371961's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sistersville, WV
Posts: 2,163
There are cleaning companies that will do it.
m371961 is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 01:06 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
stevengerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chi-town
Posts: 4,511
X2 ^

I wouldn't risk cleaning it up for many reasons. I know it adds to the cost but you should hire someone for your own safety and sanity.
stevengerard is online now  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 03:44 PM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Tedd Thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Ranch Ca.
Posts: 7,724
This isn't the first time but the forth time someone has died on the property since I have been involved so I'm pretty sure how this will shake out( we rent to a lot of older retirees).

I've never had a problem if a doctor or 911 was called but should someone die unobserved then all hell breaks out and a lock is put on the door till the coroner OK's the death certificate. If the deceased is in any way a word of the state then someone from the state or court will ransack the property for any valuables then the relatives if any or if there is no will get a shot at whats left, we get to throw whatever is left in a dumpster. Usuall most all goes into the dumpster because these people seldom have much of anything of value. Thats the way it has gone for us in the last 25 years or so. Property has been in the family since 1938 when my great uncle built these units....Tedd

PS. Because the switch box is located outside the unit I was able to turn on the master switch this morning(no tape or seals were on the box).

Last edited by Tedd Thompson; October 22nd, 2013 at 03:53 PM.
Tedd Thompson is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 03:50 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Tedd Thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Ranch Ca.
Posts: 7,724
Oops double post...Tedd

Last edited by Tedd Thompson; October 22nd, 2013 at 03:59 PM. Reason: double post
Tedd Thompson is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 04:06 PM
  #9  
Connoisseur d'Junque
 
MDchanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Hudson Valley
Posts: 21,183
Thirty days without access seems insanely long from other experiences I've had, but if that's the way it's done there, what can I say?

My one word of advice, other than "Open all the windows," is "Burn coffee."

Get a whole bag of coffee beans, pull out a frying pan, put it on the stove over a full flame, and burn 'em.

Makes the smell much more tolerable.

- Eric
MDchanic is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 04:39 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
m371961's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sistersville, WV
Posts: 2,163
I might have been hesitant to turn the elec back on without being able to check and see what appliances may be on.
m371961 is offline  
Old October 22nd, 2013, 05:35 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
Lady72nRob71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 11,798
Originally Posted by Tedd Thompson
The county will or has locked (sealed) the unit up and we won't be able to gain assess till a corner has determined cause of death usually thirty days or more and of course they have turned off all the electricity so everything will spoil even more than it is now.
I sure hope they took the body!
Wow - I feel for you... I know what a 2-week old rotting rabbit smelled like on my patio, so I cannot imagine how bad this would be.
Best of luck to you!
Lady72nRob71 is offline  
Old October 23rd, 2013, 08:30 AM
  #12  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Tedd Thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Ranch Ca.
Posts: 7,724
There is a good chance that the poor guy may have laid there for a few days unable to get up according to one of the sheriff officers, I didn't go in so that is just here say but it makes since as others said the body was not that bad for a two week old corpse.Also probably helped that the air conditioner was on 24-7 that what alerted us that there was a problem plus he hadn't paid his rent and he was the type that was never later than a day or two ever....Sorry if this has been a downer for anyone, I'm all for letting is thread go away if this upsetting for others....Tedd
Tedd Thompson is offline  
Old October 23rd, 2013, 07:56 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
texxas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 486
Wow, I haven't had anyone die in any of my units... yet. I had some heroin junkies that hauled scrap metal up into their second floor apartment and then up the attic stairs(after cutting off my lock). Not a little scrap metal, 2 and a half tons. That's right 5000 pounds of scrap hauled to the third story. I took it all to the metal yard but it was hardly worth all the work it took me to get it back outside. I think they were on meth too. The cops moved them out to the city jail.
I had another unit where the toilet supply valve was leaking and the tenant never told me until the toilet had fallen through the floor and was laying under the house. I've got lots of these fun stories but no one dead. Had to clean up after a shooting, but no one died.
texxas is offline  
Old October 24th, 2013, 07:14 PM
  #14  
Registered User
 
Lady72nRob71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 11,798
Originally Posted by texxas
I had another unit where the toilet supply valve was leaking and the tenant never told me until the toilet had fallen through the floor and was laying under the house.
This one gave me a good laugh for the day!
Sorry you had to go through so much trouble to fix that, but it just amazes me how some people can just be so darn ignorant...
At least most rednecks around here would have stuck some bubble gum over the hole, or taped a hose to the leak, rerouting that water back into the tank.
Google plumbing inspection fails or something like that for lots of fun stories!
Lady72nRob71 is offline  
Old October 24th, 2013, 07:36 PM
  #15  
MOTORHEAD
 
11971four4two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: minnesota USA
Posts: 6,649
critters die and then they smell bad
sorry the lad died under your roof
11971four4two is online now  
Old October 24th, 2013, 07:48 PM
  #16  
Connoisseur d'Junque
 
MDchanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Hudson Valley
Posts: 21,183
Originally Posted by 1971four4two
critters die and then they smell bad
I question your sequence.

Most critters smell none too good while alive either. Especially the 2-leg kind.

It is a part of life, though, and one that we should all accept, as none of us is immune.

Some people want to put death (which happens to us all) out of sight, but this gentleman has done what generations before us have done, and put those who came before in sight, in the yard.
Personally, I salute him, and wish him well in his conflict with his town. We have family plots all over up here in Maine, and it's nothing remarkable or problematic at all.

- Eric
MDchanic is offline  
Old October 24th, 2013, 07:54 PM
  #17  
MOTORHEAD
 
11971four4two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: minnesota USA
Posts: 6,649
my syntax may perplex you


who cares

tedd has a ded camper
11971four4two is online now  
Old October 24th, 2013, 07:56 PM
  #18  
Registered User
 
bisscrac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: tampa fl.
Posts: 79
yuk
bisscrac is offline  
Old October 24th, 2013, 08:11 PM
  #19  
Connoisseur d'Junque
 
MDchanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Hudson Valley
Posts: 21,183
Originally Posted by 1971four4two
my syntax may perplex you
who cares
Indeed.

Your delivery puts me in mind of a Peter Schickele rap:
So, anyway,
Now hear the sound
Of the very best rapper
For miles around
Yes I’m the fella
Who’s where it’s at
There’s absolutely no denying that
Yes, I’m the apex
I’m the best
I’m considerably better
Than all the rest
The acme
The zenith
The tippest of the top
The ne plus ultra
The hippest of the hop
The summit
The pinnacle
The highest of the high
The apogee of rappers
That’s I.
It's hard to arrive at (descend to) the level of Peter Schickele. Dead or alive.

- Eric
MDchanic is offline  
Old October 24th, 2013, 08:20 PM
  #20  
MOTORHEAD
 
11971four4two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: minnesota USA
Posts: 6,649
the next day

auto fellatio master??
11971four4two is online now  
Old October 24th, 2013, 08:31 PM
  #21  
Connoisseur d'Junque
 
MDchanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: The Hudson Valley
Posts: 21,183
Ah. You've never studied the works of PDQ Bach then.

It's a music thing, but he's funny even if you don't know a ♭from a ♮.

- Eric
MDchanic is offline  
Old October 24th, 2013, 08:59 PM
  #22  
MOTORHEAD
 
11971four4two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: minnesota USA
Posts: 6,649
no music

sub stantard submission
11971four4two is online now  
Old October 25th, 2013, 05:31 AM
  #23  
Moderator
 
Jamesbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 17,637
I've handled rental property all my life until about 2 years ago. Never had that one BUT I can tell you when I wake up in the morning and it's raining. I say "Thank your Lord" I'm not having any roof leaks today.

Been there, done that, and got the heck out of the business
Jamesbo is offline  
Old November 10th, 2013, 07:41 PM
  #24  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Tedd Thompson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Ranch Ca.
Posts: 7,724
For those that are interested we just got permission from the county to open up the rental and clean it up. Probably the shortest time ever, not looking forward to tomorrow.....Tedd
Tedd Thompson is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Octania
The Clubhouse
12
March 19th, 2015 11:08 AM
cheven
Body & Paint
4
June 10th, 2012 04:27 PM
jaunty75
General Discussion
50
February 14th, 2012 12:27 PM
help442onguam
General Discussion
40
October 12th, 2011 08:15 PM
MI455
General Discussion
56
November 26th, 2010 04:22 AM



Quick Reply: Worst case scenario



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:04 PM.