Inconsistent cylinder temperature readings
#1
Inconsistent cylinder temperature readings
Freshly Rebuilt 455 engine with new camshaft .
Symptoms: Lean pop off idle. ( Not sure if related)
Cylinders #2 and #3 have different temperature readings at cylinder head using heat infrared test gun.
1-370, 3-220, 5-380,7-390
2-185,4-365,6-390,8-385
I double checked the following:
Firing order- Good
Timing- Correct
Plugs and Ignition Wires- Good
Compression test - Good
Vacuum Leaks- None
What am I missing?
Symptoms: Lean pop off idle. ( Not sure if related)
Cylinders #2 and #3 have different temperature readings at cylinder head using heat infrared test gun.
1-370, 3-220, 5-380,7-390
2-185,4-365,6-390,8-385
I double checked the following:
Firing order- Good
Timing- Correct
Plugs and Ignition Wires- Good
Compression test - Good
Vacuum Leaks- None
What am I missing?
#2
So a rich mixture would cause lower cylinder temperatures and a lean mixture would cause higher cylinder temperatures.
I have never tried to measure the temperature of a cylinder head.
I have never tried to measure the temperature of a cylinder head.
Last edited by Fun71; September 14th, 2017 at 04:33 PM.
#11
FWIW I'm thinking you have no combustion or intermittent combustion in 2 and 3 despite having new plugs, wires etc. That might be the cause of low heat readings. Even with no combustion or intermittent combustion some heat will transfer through the block possibly accounting for the low readings
Its not unknown for new plugs to be bad. When I rebuilt my 455 it idled poorly. Took me a while to check the same things you did and finally pulled the plugs. One plug was grossly fouled. replaced it with another new plug. End of problems.
Jerry
Its not unknown for new plugs to be bad. When I rebuilt my 455 it idled poorly. Took me a while to check the same things you did and finally pulled the plugs. One plug was grossly fouled. replaced it with another new plug. End of problems.
Jerry
#12
FWIW I'm thinking you have no combustion or intermittent combustion in 2 and 3 despite having new plugs, wires etc. That might be the cause of low heat readings. Even with no combustion or intermittent combustion some heat will transfer through the block possibly accounting for the low readings
Its not unknown for new plugs to be bad. When I rebuilt my 455 it idled poorly. Took me a while to check the same things you did and finally pulled the plugs. One plug was grossly fouled. replaced it with another new plug. End of problems.
Jerry
Its not unknown for new plugs to be bad. When I rebuilt my 455 it idled poorly. Took me a while to check the same things you did and finally pulled the plugs. One plug was grossly fouled. replaced it with another new plug. End of problems.
Jerry
What can be the cause of intermittent or no
combustion ?
#14
If you are getting good spark in all cylinders I'm at a loss to explain why the low temps in 2 and 3. Maybe something mechanical? Cutlass EFI had good advice with regard to checking for vacuum leak on #6 and #8
Have you asked your engine rebuilder these same questions? What do they say?
Jerry
Have you asked your engine rebuilder these same questions? What do they say?
Jerry
Last edited by 47 Convertible; September 14th, 2017 at 08:31 PM.
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#18
He said compression good, and I assume he meant he checked all of them, and it shouldn't be good I would think, with a valve leak with it off the seat.
#20
I agree with Cutlassefi because I had the same problem as you. I tried everything I could think of to find out why. I did find the problem after swapping in a Torker intake. The stock intake manifolds are bad for cracking on the bottom side, mine had 3 hair line cracks. Also don't take readings of the head because the water flow will confuse you. Always take readings of the exhaust manifolds or beater yet the header pipes.
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