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Old July 5th, 2015, 03:14 PM
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Barn find, weird headlights

Found this 68 442 in a warehouse been locked up for 20 years but in great shape.
But, I have never seen headlights like this.
Anyone have any idea?
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Old July 5th, 2015, 04:56 PM
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What country are you in? They look like cibie lights.
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Would they be for an export model?
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Old July 5th, 2015, 05:31 PM
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Car is in Cleveland Oh

I thought they might be Canadian?
It's left hand drive
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Old July 5th, 2015, 05:39 PM
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I'll bet someone modded it back in the day. That looks like they used a 442 grill to make the headlight mount
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Old July 5th, 2015, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hairy Olds
They look like cibie lights.
That was my first thought too.
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I agree with allyolds. I bet somebody modded it way back when.
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That was my first thought

But the car is all original. Whatever they did they did a good job and it was done early. I won't be able to get into the trunk for a week or so who knows maybe the original parts are there
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Old July 5th, 2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiazersoza
But the car is all original.
No it's not. Just look at those headlights.



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What country are you in?
I suspect Australia or New Zealand, judging by the fact that his car looks upside down.

You won't know what's inside until you open the trunk.

Personally, I suspect you will find more modifications than you can see right now.

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Originally Posted by Kiazersoza
I thought they might be Canadian?
You're joking, right?

Those are a custom installation, probably Cibies as noted above. The factory never installed anything but sealed beam T-3s, whether for the domestic market or for export.
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Old July 6th, 2015, 02:10 AM
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Similar looking headlights were fitted on UK Vauxhall Viva models (GMs UK subsiduary).
I doubt they are the same as the ones in the OP though, I think the UK ones were all left hand dip pattern.
Most of Europe started using shaped headlamps long before North America stopped using plain round or rectangular ones. It was easy to spot a US spec version of many European models with a glance at the headlights.

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Old July 6th, 2015, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
You're joking, right?

Those are a custom installation, probably Cibies as noted above. The factory never installed anything but sealed beam T-3s, whether for the domestic market or for export.
Ha! I thought the same thing...really??
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http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0805phr-bill-mitchells-1962-pontiac-grand-prix-x-400/

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Old August 14th, 2016, 12:41 PM
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Can you post more pics? More with the hood open would be good so we can see the mounting.
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Originally Posted by Hairy Olds
Can you post more pics? More with the hood open would be good so we can see the mounting.
If that is directed at the OP, he last posted on this site on July 7, 2015.
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Old August 14th, 2016, 01:25 PM
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Interesting car, though, if you look at the photos in that article.

I've got to say, it's one little thing that says something about this country:
The way that car company execs could order up (and drive around in) completely custom cars back then.
Imagine something like that today. Hell, the DOT would probably make them crash ten of them before they'd let the company register one.

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Can't believe nobody mentioned the license plate lol.
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Originally Posted by Diego
That X-400 is on the GM Tech center court yard in front of the dome (designed by none other than Eero Sarrinen). Check out the the hood, emblem, mirrors, 421 fender emblem, road wheels and hard top cover.

There was a prototype '65 in Special Interest Autos like 20 years ago with a "bumperless front end" that had those headlamps.

Considering the grill/park lamp mount I'm suspecting prototype.
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i know its an old post...but i think its a knock down car sent to europe or austrailia and converted to RHD>.he says its RHD...they had diff laws and lighting was one of them.....prob was there since 68 or 69..and a serviceman brought it back..

its weird to us..but prob government mandated..just like they all had to be RHD converted back then in some countries......

canada didnt have RHD,,they had metric speedos..but not RHD...as a matter of fact..Canada built 68s cutlass' ...it was part of the laws for imports etc..they had to build so many in country to be able to sell them....
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Originally Posted by marxjunk
.he says its RHD...
He says it is left hand drive.





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Old August 15th, 2016, 05:01 PM
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ahh...now i see that.....i dont have a clue how i picked up RHD...

im in the middle of building a RHD car right now..and all thats on my mind is RHD...its all i see....son of a gun i need a break...

never mind..
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Can't believe nobody mentioned the license plate lol.
Yeah, I'd mount that.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 10:16 AM
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The lights are in upside down. That's obvious.
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Originally Posted by z11375ss
The lights are in upside down. That's obvious.
Yeah. And what the hell is a 2-4-4?
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