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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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Bigger tires on SSII's?

I put together two cars into one, a '72 with these R15 rims with 235/60R15 tires on them and another with SSIIs all around. Sadly, the tireshop says those unidentified R15 rims are completely warped, causing vibrations from 30 MPH and up.

I have a pair of SSII rims, the standard R14 ones like the ones on the front, with 205/75R14 on them. How wide a tire will those rims comfortably support? That would mean I'd have the nice SSII rims on both axles, which is only a plus.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Not sure if the biggest, but 225/70R/14 look good on my SSI's. Most common size I see on 14" rims and still fairly easy to find.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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You might be able to straighten the 15" rims.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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I might, yes. The tire shop guy didn't sound convinced, though, and I wasn't there to look at the work done in person.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Do you have 7inch wide wheels? I have 245/60/14 tires on my 7inch rims with no problems
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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The rough rule of thumb is that the tire section width should be +/- one inch of the wheel width. Personally I've run 245/60-14s and 255/60-15s on 7" wide SSII/III wheels with no problems. The real problem is that 245/60-14s just look too small in diameter for an A-body in my opinion, especially on the rear. Too much daylight left in the wheelwell.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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I am not sure what sizes are available where you are at. I saw these 225 70 14 available at www.tirerack.com in either BF Goodrich or Firestone. They would give yo a taller tire option
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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It looks like a 235/70R14 is as tall as a the 205/75R14s I have in front, assuming the page I found is correct. The current rear tires, 235/60R15 are the same height. I guess that'd work.

SSII wheels only come in R15 for fullsize cars, yes? Do those have the same bolt pattern as the R14s?
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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I run 235 60,s just fine and 30 inch slicks really fill the wheelwells.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Seff
SSII wheels only come in R15 for fullsize cars, yes? Do those have the same bolt pattern as the R14s?
Uh, no.

Again, SSII/III wheels were ONLY made in the 5 x 4.75" bolt circle. The 15" versions were first used on the 1969 H/O and were available on the Cutlass line starting in 1973. They were not used on the full size cars until the downsized 1977 models came out, as that was the first time (since the J88) that the 4.75" bolt circle was used on the (then not so) big cars.

Didn't we just have this discussion in another thread last week?
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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I wouldn't know, this didn't become an interest area for me until today, when my rims were identified as the problem.

The confusion on my part is due to bad memory, I seem to have picked something along those lines up without getting it right.
Old Nov 15, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Seff
It looks like a 235/70R14 is as tall as a the 205/75R14s I have in front, assuming the page I found is correct.
There are plenty of places (including a pad of paper and a pencil) where you can figure out tire sizes, but I'm partial to this one. It creates an image showing the actual profile of the configuration you are proposing, in addition to an outline of the tire you're comparing to, to compare final diameter.

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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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Excellent. Now to find such tires!

Thanks for the help.
Old Nov 17, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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you could do what i did i run 14's in the front and 15's in the rear to give it the big n little attitude. Front are 205 75 14 if i remembered right and the rears are 275 60 15


Old Nov 17, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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I agree, that's a good look. My problem is finding 15" SSIIs over here. :P
Old Nov 17, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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I got 2 15's dunno what shipping would be to you.
Old Nov 17, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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More than I want to give for rims at the moment.

Thanks for the offer, though. :P
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Found these, does anyone recognize the rim?

http://www.smallblock.dk/modules/MyA...ces&lid=144448
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Damn. They'd be perfect.
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Seff they are buick

Those are Buick Sport wheels, good looking wheel but wrong for your oldsmobile...
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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LOL.... damn I was this close LOL.... if it was a gunfight I be pushing daiseys up in boothill


fast on the draw my friend and I agree completely
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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Hrm. Gotta keep looking.
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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A piece of hear-say I just caught: Tires in the US are required to have (M+S) on them by law, even if they're not winter tires? Sounds outlandish.
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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Mud & Snow tires are not winter tires. They are all-season tires, which is why the M+S designation is so common.

Winter tires have a little snowflake and mountain logo.

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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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I also belive the snow tires are of a softer compound.
Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Snow tires being softer makes sense - when cold, they won't get overly hard like summer tires and lose traction.
Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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Most tires sold in the US are "all season" (M&S) and are a compromise. Like most compromises, OK most of the time but not the best at anything. Will never hold dry roads like a summer tire and never get the traction of a winter tire in messy weather.
Old Dec 8, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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