68oldscutlass

Hey gang. Looking for a little help here. Can someone (or many people) decode this for me..thanks in advance!!

68 Cutlass
VIN = 336878G107260

Other stamping (I belive is where when why it was built along with other stuff like options and paint)

910 CC
QB8182519
MM 082 N

Thanks!!

jaunty75

The VIN decodes simply as a 1968 Cutlass S V-8 2-door hardtop built at Framingham, Massachusetts.

"Why" it was built? I don't think any body or trim tag ever had a code on it to indicate WHY the car was built. It was built because that's what General Motors does!


Are these codes from the body cowl tag? The best thing you can do is to take a clear photo of the cowl tag and post it here. Many times people misread the characters on the tag, mistaking an "O" for a "D" or a "5" for an "S" and things like that. Better to post an actual image and let the experts have at it.

allyolds68

I believe 910 CC is bench seat, Black interior, Upper and lower Provincial White exterior

The 910 is kind of throwing me because I thought it was only for a 4 door.

MDchanic

It was built to pay dividends to General Motors stockholders (and to spend the least possible amount of money in the process).




- Eric

68oldscutlass

Yeah yeah yeah..we all know why. My bad lol. Ok I will try to put the link to the pic with this. Never works right for me for some reason. I did double check it and it is spelled out correctly though. This is fron the warranty book with the metal stamped plate. Dont have the car at the moment cause it is at body shop. Funny you say Provincial White...I thought it was Olympic white. It is black interior, 2 dr hardtop with front bench. You guys are awesome as usual.
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allyolds68

I thought you were putting cowl tag numbers up there. I don't know a thing about Protect-To-Plates. When you get a chance post of pic of the cowl tag. Black bench seat interior should be 950 for that car

edit:

If you go to wildaboutcars.com and look at the 68 assembly manual, section 0, page 115 the information is there

btw the SB is the rear axle code and 03300 accessory and option code numbers

68oldscutlass

Ok cool thanks. Assumed they would be the same no? I might see the car tonight so I'll take a pic.

allyolds68

Like I said, according to the assembly manual the 910 code is for a 4 door bench. This should be a 950 code on the cowl tag.

The MM is the tranny code. It should be a 2 speed Jet-a-way

QB is the 350 2 bbl low compression, with A/C

The SB rear is 2.78 limited slip

68oldscutlass

Yes sir. 2spd jetaway it is. Ok I'll look into it thanks. Was more curious about paint code because it's at body shop

wmachine

The P-O-P decode is in the first section of the Assembly Manual available free of charge at Wild About Cars.
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MDchanic

So that car was sold in Brooklyn and made it all the way to NJ...

- Eric

'69CutlassVert'

Had all the info Allyolds68 had from the GM Protect-o-Plate Guide, but the 082 number still confuses me, anyone?

wmachine

Did you look it up?

'69CutlassVert'

Yeah I did Kurt. I got the 2003 print. Like I said, that 082 just dont make sense.

68oldscutlass

Finding this stuff impossible to read. Did find that the "910" is the bench seat but it says for club coupe. Holiday coupe shows different code. Interesting. Trying to figure out other stuff on my own even though you hve told me most of it. Why is the "082" throwing you guys off?? Just trying to keep up!

allyolds68

In all fairness Kurt, I can't figure it out either. On the engine line those numbers that follow the engine letter code are supposed to be the engine unit number which, I assume, is the same number stamped on the filler tube but I've never had a Protecto-Plate, so i'm not sure. I always thought the engine filler numbers were just a sequential number that didn't match anything.

On the tranny line I have no idea what those numbers are that follow the tranny designation. Perhaps you could fill us in

wmachine

Okay, I see what you mean. The 082 is part of the trans code, it is the date code of the trans. This is better spelled out in the first section of the Chassis Service Manual.

wmachine

Well you sure do now! The '65-'68 Assembly manuals all have a page on the POPs. (After '68, the POPs don't tell you much of anything).

The "03300" 5-number code is one of my favorites as it can tell you what options you have *and don't* have for at least a dozen options.
But it is still not an exact science as my '66 POP has an "8" for the 4th number, and there is not an 8 shown anywhere.

'69CutlassVert'

Kurt, according to my reference book, the option code only became uniform in 67 which required all plants to use the 5 digit code. In 65-66 it was refined to Lasing plant, but according to the 03300 option line on 68oldscutlass' car, it is showing an axle code without power breaks but the first three in the option line is a code N40/J50 for power breaks and stearing......Ideas? BTW, thanks for clearing up the numbers on the trans code

68oldscutlass

Lovin the info guys. It is a non power brake car that I converted to power and front disc. Power steering came with the car. I couldn't get to the body shop before they closed to shoot the tag on the actual car.

wmachine

You're almost there, CV. The SB axle code is for non J52 (power *disk* brakes), which is correct for J50 power brakes. So that is consistent with the 2nd "3".

Are you sure the car was originally a non power brake car? Or do you mean it was a power brake car that you converted to PDB? The numbers say it was a power drum brake car originally.

FWIW, the 2nd "3" is for the U69. That is not shown on the POP page, you need to go to the "IBM ACCESSORY CODES" to find it. Any numbers on the POP that are higher than those on the POP page will be there. ..........except the 8 on my '66 POP......

68oldscutlass

Car is 100% an original 4 wheel manual drum car. I recently converted to power brakes and changed out the front drums to disc. Where will I find these codes on the car itself? Gonna try and get to body shop over weekend to see if the codes on the steel plate match the actual car. Don't see why they wouldn't.

jrzybob442

"SB" is the standard 2.78 anti spin rear on a non PB car. J50 or J52 got the "S3". For the life of me I cannot see what was different on the SB or the S3

wmachine

No, the SB was the Anti-Spin 2.78 for all except J52(power disc brakes) and J55 (Police use power disc).
Which means SB is correct for J50.
The reason for the code difference is that the code is for the whole rear end sub-assembly, not just the gears. The brake components would be different for the J52 an J55. The assembly manual has a chart the identifies what these differences are.

'69CutlassVert'

Kurt, Thanks for helping out with the info. Preciate you getting that break/axle thing worked out for me.