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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 09:51 PM
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Another dopey question

Another dopey question but whats the difference between a water pump with AC and a water pump without AC on the 59?
Mine is toast and only non Ac ones are available, will they survive?
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 03:04 AM
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I think the snout is longer on the A/C pump to accommodate the three groove pulley...that's the case for '68 Cutlass.
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 03:08 AM
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Call kanter 800-526-1096 They show a a/c and non on their list.

Or just send yours out to have it rebuilt! unless the housing is junk?

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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellowstatue
I think the snout is longer on the A/C pump to accommodate the three groove pulley...that's the case for '68 Cutlass.
That would make sense! cheers for the tip!
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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1970cs
Call kanter 800-526-1096 They show a a/c and non on their list.

Or just send yours out to have it rebuilt! unless the housing is junk?

Pat
Thank you for that, they do list one


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Old Jan 23, 2015 | 05:59 PM
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The pumps intended for the A/C applications have a larger diameter bearing to better withstand the added belt loads of the A/C compressor when compared to the standard pump. Some of the A/C pumps also have an 8 vane impeller in place of the standard 6 vane pumps. The pumps should be interchangeable, shaft length of 3.35 inches (gasket surface to front of flange), and will fit older models (except 1953) prior to the development of the A/C pump. Try to get the A/C pump; it will last longer. Both the standard and the A/C pumps are rebuildable if you have a source for the bearing and seal and have a press.
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozzie
The pumps intended for the A/C applications have a larger diameter bearing to better withstand the added belt loads of the A/C compressor when compared to the standard pump. Some of the A/C pumps also have an 8 vane impeller in place of the standard 6 vane pumps. The pumps should be interchangeable, shaft length of 3.35 inches (gasket surface to front of flange), and will fit older models (except 1953) prior to the development of the A/C pump. Try to get the A/C pump; it will last longer. Both the standard and the A/C pumps are rebuildable if you have a source for the bearing and seal and have a press.

Thank you, I have been pouring over photos from previous threads and that is the case. Even though some list both they only have the std pump. I will install the std one and Plan A is to source the bearing, shaft and seal but if that proves to hard I will send mine in to be rebuilt.
Do you have any clues where I can source these parts?
Thank you for your help
Scott
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 06:30 AM
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Do you have any clues where I can source these parts?
Thank you for your help
Scott
Prior to 2005 I had a good source (in New Orleans) close to where I live. It was a place which did rebuilding of automotive parts, and was willing to sell the components as well as the rebuilt units. Prices were reasonable. Hurricane Katrina took them out permanently with about 10 feet of sea water. Now I can only recommend asking at businesses which specialize in selling bearings. You will need to find the bearing as well as the seal. The procedure is described fully with photos on pages 8-27 through 8-29 of the 1959 Oldsmobile Service Manual. It is straightforward, but requires a press.
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 01:56 PM
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Thank you Ozzie for your help. I do have the manual and like every task I have not done it looks easy lol.
Were you flooded out as well in Katrina?
Old Jan 25, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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Were you flooded out as well in Katrina?
No. Everything here is low in elevation and to be somewhat secure you should live within a levee & pump system. It is a bit like Holland. The levee system for the city of New Orleans failed which resulted in 80% of the city being submerged with sea water. The levee system I am in held the load, so I survived with only a small bit of wind damage. Since then the levee systems have been rebuilt to a much sturdier condition.
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