Going to look at this car today...
A 71 with 70 front grill and bumpers
What should I keep my eye open for when looking at a former quarter car?(best was 10.3 seconds)...has 4.10 rear.
Comes with 74 455 and 400 tran not in car.
No docs except VIN tells me it is 442 ...cowl Lansing built 19 19 paint code

Thanks,
Ted

 

i think its tough to check a car like that with the engine out...maybe check the frame and mounts for cracks

 

Hi Ted;
Also noticed is has a 70 rear bumper with non 442 lenses.
If it is a Canadian car should be easy to prove it is a W30 through GM of Canada Historical Services.
Where is it located?
Thanks
Dick

 

What is the VIN? You know where the model year number is. IMO it's strange to have the entire appearance of the car changed to represent 1970. Maybe it's not a 71 at all. Good luck with the viewing. How much is the ask on this machine

 

Yes and I see no red wells and the hood is even a 70 style.

 

It would have to be if the core support and grilles were changed to 1970.

 

It is a Lansing car.....first week Feb 1971
VIN starts with 344
Seller says car was stripped in early 80's of all of the w30 stuff
70 parts installed because he liked the looks of that year.
Asking price is 15000...two extra weld rims, original rims, white interior,tilt steering with sprt wheel, original sway bars, three cord rad(new)etc
Going to see it tonight.
Do not think I could ever prove it was a w30,.......other than the sellers word
Does not hurt to look....

 

So it wasn't sold new in Canada?

 

thats a lot of money for a car like that , it has hardly anything original to the w-30 even if it is one

 

Just noticed it also has 1970 mirrors.

15K seems a lot steep for a car that's not complete or running. Ted, it's obviously your call, but a 344 car purported to be a W30 with ALL the W30 stuff stripped is not a W30 car anymore, especially with no documentation. IMO this one is riding on the sellers coatsleeves.

 

Well that pic of it launching shows it with W30 emblems, but no red inner liners. Emblems are a dime a dozen, those liners aren't. So if that pic was taken prior to the 80's? I'd be highly suspicious about it being a real W30.

 

Mike, as far as the seller is aware it was sold in Canada.
I guess I will run the Vin thru the GM heritage centre...will this document show the w30 options/model if the car was built this way?

...and thanks for the input peoples....I really appreciate it

Car is in pretty good shape. We are at 13200$ in price......

 

Yes, all options will be listed, along with shipping date, dealer where the car was purchased and the number imported into Canada with the same model number, ie., (34487). You could recreate the car back to the way it left the factory, if you could find the parts. Good luck with your quest.

 

1971 442 W30

940 Black vinyl
19 ebony lack
11 cameo white stripe

328 imported to Canada 4 sale

RPO Code

A52. Front bench
A90 power trunk release
D35 Lt remote and Rt manual control...custom ort
G80 posi
K05 block heater
M40 THM 400
N47steering vari ratio power
PK5 G70x14 white letter
Po5 SS1 wheel
T44 interior operated hood lock
U63
U80
W30 442 W-machine package
W35 rear spoiler

Non original motor tranny and rear and front bumpers from a 70
OEM emblems
Non orig rear end
Have white interior with non original buckets....have to get a console...
Sport steering wheel with tilt
OEM w25 hood
Has power trunk setup
What do you think? Worth it?

Thanks,
Ted

 

I would pass

 

Thanks, I took your advice......

Ted

 

I wouldn't buy it as a W-30 or pay the price for one either without documents plus all the good parts are gone, might as well just find one complete and pay the price, it would be the same thing in the end.

 

It's got better docs than most "documented" US cars. What is there, $10k worth of parts missing? It's a $50k restored car with docs.

 

You should ****** it up...30k guarateed in your pocket

 

???

 

To me the value is in the body is the body rust free accident free. Is the hood original and rust and damage free.
You would have to check the frame for the vin number as well.
The asking price is to high for what it is, but if the body and frame are rust and accident free then there is value in that.
When I say rust free that means the car has not been fixed ever same goes for accident repairs.

 

GM Canada documented as being a 442 W30....that is where I got all that info I posted above^^....

 

Bought the car today
Now, it is on to collecting parts and build thread

Ted

 

Congrats Ted. You'll do ok on that. Just one question - are you going to keep it looking like a 70 or change it out to 71? That's a lot of work and $$. I'm guessing you meant the W25 hood was an OEM 1970 model?

Would be nice if you got it for less than the price you were at a few days ago. Starting to get quite a stable full there.

 

Congrats on the purchase. Since it is a real 1971 W-30 the car deserves to be restored to 1971 cosmetics. Good luck with the project.

 

Need H heads?

:-)

 

Thanks Allan and Dave
I really like the looks of the 70, but as Dave pointed out, I think the car should be restored to the 71 specs. I can use the bumpers on my 70 Cutlass
The hood is OEM 70.

Price wise, the seller came down a fair bit.....but the car comes without the 4.10 rear axle, and no weld rims. I have a set of ss1's that I will put on for now.
He has a 12 bolt that is included, I need the control arms and a driveshaft.
In the end, I am pretty happy...i own a W machine and will restore it to its original specs the best I can....I pick it up on Saturday

Ted

 

Way to go Ted.
I will be watching this build for sure!
May be a while eh? A few yrs to gather
71 W parts? The hunt is 1/2 the fun.

When you get her home post up some
more pics please...

 

some pics of the w machine

 

few more

 

Ted, I believe the 71 442 had a 10 bolt GM corporate rear and 3.23, 3.42 or 3.73 gear options for the W30 with a TH400. Are you planning to install the driveline for now and drive it while you collect the (whole whack of) parts you need? How does the interior look?

From what pics there are, it looks really nice with very little repairs needed!

 

For 1971 W-30s came with the 8.5" rear end with 3.42 gears standard. I believe A/C cars came with 3.23 gears but I will defer to the 71 guru Paul Martin to confirm or dispute this. 3.73s were optional on non a/c cars with either the T400 or the M-22.


A/C was not available on the 72 W-30 cars. 3.42s came standard regardless of transmission & the only factory installed optional gear was 3.73s even with the M-20 (M-21 & M-22 not available after 1971).


Note that the dealer had several 4 series gears that could be installed but I have never seen a 1971 or 1972 W-30 car for sale with documentation of dealer installed 4 series gears.

 

Nice car!!!

 

I am putting a non correct rear in it while I part search so I can drive it....I am putting together a 455 , until I win a million ...in the meantime, the search begins...I will start selling some extra parts I have to help fund some of the resto

 

Looks pretty much rust free.
Good luck with her Ted.

 

Thanks Sam
Dave, any info you provide is greatly appreciated!...same with you AllanThanks
Adam......most rust free Olds I have ever owned!....stick with me as I go into the unknown!

 

Ted;
Congrats - great car!
Another "Canuck" W30 came to light.
I think we need to start a "W30/31 etc" Canadian website as there were a lot imported into Canada. Something along the lines of the W Registry that is now off the grid. Off the top of my head, I know of at least 15 in Ontario alone, plus a couple down east & a bunch out west.
I am not a computer Geek, but I would support anyone to set up a site - it would be awesome!
If I can help(have some parts) - let me know.

Derek(Dick) Cook

 

The only way a '71 W30 came with AC was with auto trans, power steering, power disc brakes, and the 3.23 rear.

 

Thanks Derek
I would support the site but, like you my computer skills are limited to this site and the weather network....and I send the the occasional email...I still like to call someone and I miss the card catalogue to find a book
We should look into creating a site...would be cool.
Just sorting thru the parts I got with the car...i will keep you in mind..thanks
What part of the Great North do you live? Close to Port Perry?

Ted

 

Wow Ted, I missed this whole deal. Congrats. Looks like a great project. Have fun.