tru-blue 442

I have it on very good authority by one of the best on these cars that I may have found one.
Would you believe that with the correct OW trans with the VIN matching numbers that this car is a W?
The heads are wrong, the carburetor is wrong, the car is the wrong color, yada yada...Trans is correct.

69CSHC

For me, a real W30 (66-72) is all about the engine. It along with its correct components is all that really matters... With that said I am not voting, because I fall flatly between yes and no on your poll.

BangScreech4-4-2

If you can substantiate that it came from the factory as a W-30 then that's what it is, altered engine notwithstanding. If that is the numbers-matching OW transmission (and you feel confident it hasn't been re-tagged via E-Bay) then knock yourself out. If any doubt remains, you might also want to do a checklist of W-30 specific equipment so you can sleep better at night.

Of course if it comes with some paperwork, that would make it that much easier.

4speed455

From what I’ve read matching numbers OW transmission is the only way to verify without paperwork. Of course you would have to really scrutinize the tag and the vin stamp. Even then it won’t be 100% because it could still be faked.

joe_padavano

Keep in mind that you can buy these on the interwebs...





Of course, it's usually pretty obvious if the tag is brand new or has been there since the trans was born. Just be careful.

tru-blue 442

Joe, the OW tag has a black rivet like it should and the last 6 numbers of the VIN are stamped on the driver side rail like it should.
I think it may be a real W car. I have pics but there're in text form on my smart phone and I'm to dumb to figure out how to post them.

joe_padavano

I'm not suggesting that it isn't real, just pointing out that it is possible for someone to add an OW tag to a "numbers matching" trans.

tru-blue 442

Thanks, I knew that they were reproduced. I wouldn't think someone cloning one would know about the black rivet
or the VIN on the rail either. I had to get the man selling it to put it on a lift and get some brake cleaner to find the stamp.
He didn't even know about that one. I feel I found one. Built like I wanted too, with the spoiler, dual-gate and /A/C.

Magna86

Yes if it has the Numbers matching OW trans its a W30 period. Not having the engine stuff just makes it cheaper to buy hopefully.

tru-blue 442

Going to look at it tomorrow, only 3 hours away. It may be following me home...

BangScreech4-4-2

Best of luck, Adam. Be interesting to hear what your inspection turns up.

tru-blue 442



LOUCKES'6487

Nice color though.
Any chalk underhood anywhere, emission tune decal look authentic ?
All those important things like distr , carb, stamping numbers relate?
Suspension, spring tags or markings for any correct options? Boxed arms, shock numbers etc , probably not all original stuff after these many years.
​​​​​​Which cars did and didn't have bleeders on the master cyl?
All fun stuff to go through , must be a thick book on this somewhere.

69CSHC

Looks nice, congratulations !

tru-blue 442

Thanks guys, it had sat a few years but the fellows I got it from had performed some maintenance on it and we drove it 200 miles home.

tru-blue 442

tru-blue 442

It's sat for 22 years, I believe it to be a survivor car with 73 thousand miles. The fellow I got it from just bought it to flip it, the original owner had passed several years ago.

BangScreech4-4-2

Congrats!

Legit W-27?

WTHIRTY1

Not sure I'd call that a survivor. Cool W-30.

LOUCKES'6487

Looks good and A/C !
Get that oil fill cap on it

tru-blue 442

No, bad pic, SF code posi 3.23. Aftermarket or dealer add on cover.

Koda

I think that's the real thing, or it was made to look that way so long ago there was no money in doing so, yet.

The state of the engine bay authenticates it. I'd clean it up, get it reliable, and go terrorize the neighborhood.

69CSHC

Tru-blue 442, were you given any explanation as to why a 73 thousand mile car has so much changed on it ?

Did the flipper buy it from the family/estate of the original owner ? (I don't see an original owner changing a car of this magnitudes color...)

Does she ping ?

Maybe engines heads were swapped to work with todays poor gas quality ?

The carburetor swap is the only move that makes immediate sense to me.

Bernhard

Nice find !

BackInTheGame

Sweet! Congratulations on your new toy!

tru-blue 442

Thanks fellas. I may have been wrong on the heads. The 1st pic is driver side, 2nd is pass. Thoughts? Both F units.

SY2455

Your cylinder heads have the casting # for a 1970 442 W-30 automatic/manual. Looks like you got the real thing.

69CSHC

How sweet it is !!

Enjoy the hell out of that legendary vehicle.

tru-blue 442

Thanks again guys and a shout out to 442Fred for helping me on deciphering things on this car that led to my decision on purchasing.

Andy

Thats a fantastic find..Congratulations..Isaw it on a FB site you posted earlier, I showed you mine which for a moment looked just like it…Anything I can help you with feel free to reach out.

tru-blue 442

Thanks Andy. It's far from perfect but it is the one I have wanted since I drove one at a used car dealership when I was 17 or so and didn't have the $1895.00 at the time!

Andy

Personally, IMHO, perfect cars are way over rated..mine is far from perfect, but sure as hell is fun to run thru the gears. Brings me right back to 17 years old

tru-blue 442

The 200 miles home was a fun ride, ran about 200* all the way home. Looking at it today and noticed it had an aftermarket trans cooler in front of the a/c condenser
.

oldsrush

Nice find and congratulations! Just curious, what was the factory color?

tru-blue 442

Sherwood Green.

NTXOlds

Incredible find, my friend! Congratulations!

no1oldsfan

Amen Andy. "Perfect" cars don't get enjoyed nearly enough.

BangScreech4-4-2

Adam, I may have missed it, but did it come with any paperwork?

tru-blue 442

Just the run of the mill stuff along with a 70 CSM.

Stefano

Congrats, looks like a Kool find. The W-27 Cover is a reproduction cover.