Looking this morning at another 70 convertible Cutlass Supreme. Trying to find a sight that will decode the vin but everyone I've looked at says it needs 17 digits. This one has 13.

Can someone help by giving me the site to go to?

VIN: 342670E164231

Thanks

 

I used Google and typed VIN decoder 1970 Cutlass.

The first two sites did not give complete information. The third site said:

Division: Oldsmobile Year: 1970 Model: Cutlass Supreme Body: 2dr Convertible Plant: Linden, New Jersery (sic)
Serial #: 164231
Google is your friend. It probably took longer for you to post a question than it took to find the answer.

However, you will get further information if you will look at the Fisher Body tag on the cowl and decode that. You'll get color and trim information from the original build and a build date.

 

17 character VINs started with the 1981 model year. On-line sites typically don't bother to go back that far. As VC455 has correctly decoded, VINs of your vintage contain precious little info about the car that you can't determine simply by looking at it.

 

Here's the trim tag numbers long with a pic.

70 34267 E 2669 BDY
970 14 BPN
03C A31

Number off the motor in front by the oil tube: 395558 2

I could not see a number stamped into the pad on the drivers side front underneath of the head. Lots of grease buildup there and could not get to it.

 

70 = 1970 model year
3 = Oldsmobile Division
42 = Cutlass Supreme
67 = Convertible
E = Linden, NJ assembly plant
2669 BDY = Fisher Body sequential number (not related to the VIN)
970 = Black bucket seat interior
14 BPN = this is actually 14 B PNT 14 = Platinum poly paint, B = Black convertible top
03C = built third weed (C) of Mrch (03), 1970
A31 = Power windows

Number off the motor in front by the oil tube: 395558 2 = Olds 350 block casting number, used 1968-1976

I could not see a number stamped into the pad on the drivers side front underneath of the head. Lots of grease buildup there and could not get to it. - This is the VIN derivative. If this is the original block, the first character of the VIN derivative will match the first character of the car's VIN, and the last eight characters will match the last eight of the VIN.

 

So Joe you're saying this is a 350 block? I'm familiar with chevy motors where the heads have 4 holes for the valve covers but this one has 8 holes for the valve covers. That doesn't change the fact that it is ? a 350 but did olds put the 8 holes for the vc vs. the chevy 4 hole.

Seller is asking 12k with some extra parts but it needs a good going thru to make sure it is completely cruise ready. I've been looking for awhile and this is the best one I've found in my area.

 

This is an OLDSMOBILE 350 block. It has nothing in common with a Chevy motor, other than the distributor cap and rotor. Different bore, different stroke, different castings, different external dimensions, different bellhousing bolt pattern. And count again - the valve covers have ten bolts each.

FYI, in the 1960s and 70s, each GM division (Buick, Chevy, Olds, Pontiac) each had their own unique engines. Each had a 350, and every one of them was completely different from the others.

 

If the car is as nice in person as your pic, its not a bad price.

 

If that is the proper picture, I would be concerned about prior rust given that the trim is missing around the wheel opening and the bright work moldings are also missing down the long axis of the car.




Pat