Electric fan Help

Redog · 12-26-2006, 10:16 PM

OK I bought an electric fan for the Delta 88 (1985 307 "Y" motor)

I bought a "pusher" fan. I figured since the mechinal fan pushed air into the rad from the engine side, a pusher fan would do the trick. I ordered it and it's on the way, but I'm now hearing that a "pusher" should be used in conjunction with a mech fan, and mounted on the outside of the engine bay.

I wanted to totally replace the mech fan with this electric one. Can I still replace the fan totally and just mount the electric fan on the outside on the engine bay?

Redog · 12-26-2006, 10:44 PM

Yeah I messed up, I should have ordered the puller fan, since they work better.

I'll just have to send the other one back and order a different one

Oldsguy · 12-27-2006, 06:00 AM

Right, puller fan, and use the fan shroud if at all possible. You may find clearance issues, or you may not, it depends. Good luck!

mjscutlass · 12-27-2006, 07:03 AM

I have a freind localy that will sell me a double fan setup for 35$ i just pick it out of his warehouse. They are used fans out of cars. I f u are interested let me know.

texasred · 12-27-2006, 08:04 AM

I went to Pick N Pull with my measuring tape and found the twin fan and shroud setup from an LS-1 Camaro fits all but about a 1/2 inch all around on mine. A few Aggie mounting brackets, relays and a Painless 185 degree electric switch later, I'm in bidness.

Look around the yards...you might find something to fit yours real close, if not perfectly.

C.J.

Redog · 12-27-2006, 11:22 PM

I'm think I'm going to be good with clearance, but I found another problem. CFM ratings?

The fan I'm going to return is 1610 CFM. A 2500 CFM is the same price, so I'm going to get that one instead, but a web page said a V8 should have at least 2750 CFM fan (or fans) on it.

I'll be good with a 2500 CFM fan, right?

Oldsguy · 12-28-2006, 04:58 AM

Well, remember that all those recommendations are just that. But a difference of 250 may make a difference. Remember in the "OLD DAYS" when we would replace the clutch fan with a multi blade or a flex fan and never even worry about cfm ratings? Oh well, this one is a jump call for you unless someone has had some specific experience in this matter. I mounted a puller from a little Hyundai car and used a 180* switch on my '69 Delta with a 455 engine and it seemed to do well. My water temperature gauge would always go up to 210* but I think that was more of a problem with the gauge as the car didn't behave abnormally and the fan would stop running within a couple of minutes after I stopped the car so go figure. Use what you can get.

texasred · 12-28-2006, 06:48 AM

Redog,

I concur with Dan. Plus, I'm thinking that the CFM requirements for a car in Pennsylvania are a little different than a car in South Texas.

There were a lot of fans out there that fit. I've heard a popular fan to use is from a F*ord Windstar. I went with the LT-1 fans (I misspoke earlier) because they were the "biggest" ones I could find. I figure that if they can cool a BBC, then an SBO would be cake.

C.J.

Redog · 12-28-2006, 10:52 PM

OK I'm sending the fan back and reordering the right one, Getting a pretty good deal on a 2400 CFM fan.

Where is a good place to hook up the sender? I see 3 ports on the manifold the 2 on the drivers side and one on the pass. Is this a good place to hook up the sender? and which one should I use? Also I would like to remove another one so I can put in the probe to the water gauge

Oldsguy · 12-29-2006, 04:41 AM

I think it would depend upon how you wish to route the wiring and what seems best and cleanest for your. I used the passenger side one for my setup simply becuase it wasn't being used, I just had a plugged screwed in there, so.....

texasred · 12-29-2006, 12:38 PM

May or may not be helpful, but I put mine where the TSC valve was before I removed it.

C.J.

12-26-2006, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 632	Electric fan Help OK I bought an electric fan for the Delta 88 (1985 307 "Y" motor) I bought a "pusher" fan. I figured since the mechinal fan pushed air into the rad from the engine side, a pusher fan would do the trick. I ordered it and it's on the way, but I'm now hearing that a "pusher" should be used in conjunction with a mech fan, and mounted on the outside of the engine bay. I wanted to totally replace the mech fan with this electric one. Can I still replace the fan totally and just mount the electric fan on the outside on the engine bay? __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's)

12-26-2006, 10:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 632	Yeah I messed up, I should have ordered the puller fan, since they work better. I'll just have to send the other one back and order a different one __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's)

12-27-2006, 06:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Oldsguy Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lees Summit MO Posts: 2,553	Right, puller fan, and use the fan shroud if at all possible. You may find clearance issues, or you may not, it depends. Good luck! __________________ Dan '46 2 door

12-27-2006, 07:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
mjscutlass Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: akron OH. Posts: 70	just some info I have a freind localy that will sell me a double fan setup for 35$ i just pick it out of his warehouse. They are used fans out of cars. I f u are interested let me know.

12-27-2006, 08:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
texasred Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 805	I went to Pick N Pull with my measuring tape and found the twin fan and shroud setup from an LS-1 Camaro fits all but about a 1/2 inch all around on mine. A few Aggie mounting brackets, relays and a Painless 185 degree electric switch later, I'm in bidness. Look around the yards...you might find something to fit yours real close, if not perfectly. C.J. __________________ Home of the 1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible Super Karate Monkey Death Car.

12-27-2006, 11:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 632	I'm think I'm going to be good with clearance, but I found another problem. CFM ratings? The fan I'm going to return is 1610 CFM. A 2500 CFM is the same price, so I'm going to get that one instead, but a web page said a V8 should have at least 2750 CFM fan (or fans) on it. I'll be good with a 2500 CFM fan, right? __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's)

12-28-2006, 04:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
Oldsguy Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lees Summit MO Posts: 2,553	Well, remember that all those recommendations are just that. But a difference of 250 may make a difference. Remember in the "OLD DAYS" when we would replace the clutch fan with a multi blade or a flex fan and never even worry about cfm ratings? Oh well, this one is a jump call for you unless someone has had some specific experience in this matter. I mounted a puller from a little Hyundai car and used a 180* switch on my '69 Delta with a 455 engine and it seemed to do well. My water temperature gauge would always go up to 210* but I think that was more of a problem with the gauge as the car didn't behave abnormally and the fan would stop running within a couple of minutes after I stopped the car so go figure. Use what you can get. __________________ Dan '46 2 door

12-28-2006, 06:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
texasred Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 805	Redog, I concur with Dan. Plus, I'm thinking that the CFM requirements for a car in Pennsylvania are a little different than a car in South Texas. There were a lot of fans out there that fit. I've heard a popular fan to use is from a F*ord Windstar. I went with the LT-1 fans (I misspoke earlier) because they were the "biggest" ones I could find. I figure that if they can cool a BBC, then an SBO would be cake. C.J. __________________ Home of the 1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible Super Karate Monkey Death Car.

12-28-2006, 10:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 632	OK I'm sending the fan back and reordering the right one, Getting a pretty good deal on a 2400 CFM fan. Where is a good place to hook up the sender? I see 3 ports on the manifold the 2 on the drivers side and one on the pass. Is this a good place to hook up the sender? and which one should I use? Also I would like to remove another one so I can put in the probe to the water gauge __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's)

12-29-2006, 04:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
Oldsguy Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lees Summit MO Posts: 2,553	I think it would depend upon how you wish to route the wiring and what seems best and cleanest for your. I used the passenger side one for my setup simply becuase it wasn't being used, I just had a plugged screwed in there, so..... __________________ Dan '46 2 door

12-29-2006, 12:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
texasred Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 805	May or may not be helpful, but I put mine where the TSC valve was before I removed it. C.J. __________________ Home of the 1971 Cutlass Supreme convertible Super Karate Monkey Death Car.

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