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Old February 25th, 2017, 10:37 PM
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switching to 350 heads on a 403

I have a set of 7a heads from a 350 Olds that I would like to have machined to fit my 403. What I need are the bolt hole size and locator pin size that need to be drilled. My engine is back together and I would like to drive it while I gather the needed parts for the upgrade. I want to take these in to the shop but i don't have a 403 head to send with them for the measurements. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old February 25th, 2017, 11:08 PM
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They have to be drilled for ½" bolts. As far as the size of the locator, that I don't know.
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As said 1/2" bolts so slightly oversize so bolts don't bind. The dowels, one on each head, needs enlarged to 5/16", I believe. If they are going to the machine shop, 2.07"/1.625" valves with the bowls opened up and a clean up mill are a good idea. Also any worn guides replaced, new seals and upgraded springs.
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Old February 26th, 2017, 08:46 PM
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Thanks for your replies. I never thought to measure this stuff while the 4a heads were off, but like I said, I would like to drive the car this summer while getting the parts ready for the modification.
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17/32 is the drill bit but any competent machinist can figure it out. Things I have discovered on my stock 403 build. The pistons are .030 in the hole. Consider about a 70cc combustion chamber and a standard fel pro gasket at .040 crushed thickness and you're only looking at 8.5:1. I just got .011 MLS head gaskets from Smitty. That will give you 9.0:1.
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MLS, multi layer steel? Who made the gaskets you got from Smitty?
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Old March 3rd, 2017, 08:19 AM
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No idea. There's no identifier on there or anything. There is a chance he went right to the gasket maker and had them custom made. I can't find that thin of gasket anywhere.
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Old March 3rd, 2017, 08:31 AM
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I believe Smitty did exactly that, mentioned it on here. I just bought the 330-455 .028" gaskets from Rocket Racing, very nice for the price. I wish they had composite 403 gaskets in the .028" thickness.

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I believe Smitty did exactly that, mentioned it on here. I just bought the 330-455 .028" gaskets from Rocket Racing, very nice for the price. I wish they had composite 403 gaskets in the .028" thickness.
http://www.cometic.com/i-24769372-ol...tegory:1280258
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I should have said for less than $100 each.
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Well....lol.
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Smitty's are $110 plus shipping. AND they're reusable.
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110 each or is that a pair, wishful thinking.
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That should be a pair, Contact Smitty, use Paypal.
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403 rebuild

Originally Posted by brownbomber77
17/32 is the drill bit but any competent machinist can figure it out. Things I have discovered on my stock 403 build. The pistons are .030 in the hole. Consider about a 70cc combustion chamber and a standard fel pro gasket at .040 crushed thickness and you're only looking at 8.5:1. I just got .011 MLS head gaskets from Smitty. That will give you 9.0:1.
What dish amount do those pistons have or are the flat top?

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Factory 403 pistons have 21CC dish.
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Originally Posted by olds 307 and 403
Factory 403 pistons have 21CC dish.
Thanks for that info.
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Yeah...they're not small... 7.9:1 Compression back in '79
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Originally Posted by brownbomber77
Yeah...they're not small... 7.9:1 Compression back in '79
Good to know since my '70 is supercharged, I would want it to be about 8:0 to 8:2, it is now 8:12.
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Originally Posted by brownbomber77
17/32 is the drill bit but any competent machinist can figure it out. Things I have discovered on my stock 403 build. The pistons are .030 in the hole. Consider about a 70cc combustion chamber and a standard fel pro gasket at .040 crushed thickness and you're only looking at 8.5:1. I just got .011 MLS head gaskets from Smitty. That will give you 9.0:1.
For what it's worth, .011 gasket and .030 in the hole will set you up for a .041 squish distance, which very close to the optimal 0.040 squish.
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