Another 72 442 Vert Project - It Just Keeps Snowballing
October 8th, 2012, 06:13 PM
#41
please dont take this the wrong way, but you seem to be doing an awesome 1000 point resto and the car is way nice... but with all the trouble you are going thru why the wrong rims? look way better with the bolt on center caps.
October 9th, 2012, 07:11 AM
#42
Thanks - I've been wondering the same thing myself - will probably be doing something about it pretty soon!
October 28th, 2012, 03:54 PM
#45
Here's a couple of quick pics of work done so far since getting the car back almost two weeks ago. Quality of the photos suck, but the thing's looking pretty well. Already have gas tank, rear end suspension, undercar plumbing done - have installed 3 of 4 windows, getting close to completing trunk area and hanging rear bumper. Hood coming off in next few days to start the engine install.
October 29th, 2012, 08:25 AM
#48
Big Tip - spend the money for the new side glass - it is so worth it in terms of the overall appearance. No matter what I did, t just doesn't look as good as with the new glass.
October 29th, 2012, 09:11 AM
#49
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Thank you. That reaffirms my decision. I bought all new tinted side glass from PS Auto glass a few years back. I found a really excellent tinted rear glass with defog on glass at the boneyard and scooped it too. No one I know makes rear glass with that option.
Love the progress. Some additional and bigger pics would be great!
Love the progress. Some additional and bigger pics would be great!
October 29th, 2012, 06:46 PM
#50
Thank you. That reaffirms my decision. I bought all new tinted side glass from PS Auto glass a few years back. I found a really excellent tinted rear glass with defog on glass at the boneyard and scooped it too. No one I know makes rear glass with that option.
Love the progress. Some additional and bigger pics would be great!
Love the progress. Some additional and bigger pics would be great!
October 29th, 2012, 07:01 PM
#51
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I save the pic to "My pictures". Then I use my picture editor (in this case it's MS Picture Manager) to resize it to a larger format - 1024X768. The quality of the image has to be good from the start.
So I copied your bumper pic and resized on my puter using ^^ process. It comes out looking like this:
You'll also notice if you clik on the attached thumbnail it also opens up in larger format. The picture quality is lower in this case because your original pic was lower quality.
VERY NICE JOB on the bumper btw!
So I copied your bumper pic and resized on my puter using ^^ process. It comes out looking like this:
You'll also notice if you clik on the attached thumbnail it also opens up in larger format. The picture quality is lower in this case because your original pic was lower quality.
VERY NICE JOB on the bumper btw!
October 30th, 2012, 10:11 AM
#53
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Looking very nice! On the spare tire hook, you can either cut that one down for the special nut adapter, or you can buy the shorter hook that ILT sells just for the SS application. Looks like you'll have that baby tucked away under the tree before Christmas at the rate you're going. Keep up the good work.
November 4th, 2012, 09:18 PM
#55
Looking very nice! On the spare tire hook, you can either cut that one down for the special nut adapter, or you can buy the shorter hook that ILT sells just for the SS application. Looks like you'll have that baby tucked away under the tree before Christmas at the rate you're going. Keep up the good work.
Stay tuned on the FC hood. Looks pretty, but I think I'm going to have major fitment issues at the cowl. It is rubbing before even putting the cowl weatherstrip on.
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November 4th, 2012, 09:55 PM
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Joe, I am really impressed. I knew you did wonderful work when I saw your Hurst but wow, you really do wonderful work! Sorry to hear about the hood, are you sure it's rubbing? My VFN doesn't rub but it doesn't have enough weight to fully seat the hinges so I have to push it down at the back after closing it.
Also, what did you paint your trunk with? I need to do mine and I was hoping there was a rattle can out there that looks good. Yours looks great!
Also, what did you paint your trunk with? I need to do mine and I was hoping there was a rattle can out there that looks good. Yours looks great!
November 8th, 2012, 09:12 PM
#58
Joe, I am really impressed. I knew you did wonderful work when I saw your Hurst but wow, you really do wonderful work! Sorry to hear about the hood, are you sure it's rubbing? My VFN doesn't rub but it doesn't have enough weight to fully seat the hinges so I have to push it down at the back after closing it.
Also, what did you paint your trunk with? I need to do mine and I was hoping there was a rattle can out there that looks good. Yours looks great!
Also, what did you paint your trunk with? I need to do mine and I was hoping there was a rattle can out there that looks good. Yours looks great!
The painter guy shot the spatter itself. I was going to do it, but we got our signs crossed on it. I normally use the Eastwood's product. It seems to me to be a little more tough/durable than others.
November 19th, 2012, 07:12 AM
#59
Big day today - engine & transmission going in!!
Here's some more pics of work completed since getting the car back from the painter. Note - I've used the rubberized undercoater stuff in the rear wheel wells since the the wheel pic was taken - makes a big difference.
Here's some more pics of work completed since getting the car back from the painter. Note - I've used the rubberized undercoater stuff in the rear wheel wells since the the wheel pic was taken - makes a big difference.
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November 20th, 2012, 12:03 PM
#62
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Nooo, don't do the gas and match thing. I'll take it if you want to get rid of it. Beautiful looking work; be proud of it. When it's all done you can start breathing again.
December 7th, 2012, 12:49 PM
#63
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Joe, any updates? Sometimes walking away from a problem build for a while to regroup and clear the air is the best thing. Something to make you smile and realize you're not alone: When I installed all the new rear brake components on my rear axle rebuild I ended up with a c clip and washer (actually 2 of each) that I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I had left over. I KNEW I'd forgotten something, but what??? So when I went to attach the new e brake cables to the center connector, guess what fell out of the secondary shoe? Yup the e brake lever. Duhhhh, the washer between the lever and shoe, and c -clip on the front to hold it from letting go. So that's on my agenda to 'fix' when it warms up here. Like you noted in your observations of the build process, there's always something that's going to need doing over; left over parts aren't always a good thing.
December 8th, 2012, 08:01 PM
#64
Allan, just because you asked, here's a couple of pics taken tonight. Ahhh, that shifter poking out of the carpet with no console - it's one of the moments I was really looking forward to, and it was just as great as I thought it would be!!!
December 8th, 2012, 09:15 PM
#65
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Joe, that interior looks fantastic (except for the gas/brake and clutch pedals - hope they're on the replacement list)
Now I feel really bad to tell you this, but Fusick sent you upper hose with the wrong stamping on it. I know because I sent them the correct stamping (from a GM OEM upper rad hose) which they duplicated for me.
You will recognize the bottom hose (which they originally sent me as being correct), it's the same one you have on your car. When I sent them a picture of the correct stampings, they sent me the new upper hose (top one in the pic) no charge with an apology. Their stamping is still not right, but it's a lot closer to original now.
Now I feel really bad to tell you this, but Fusick sent you upper hose with the wrong stamping on it. I know because I sent them the correct stamping (from a GM OEM upper rad hose) which they duplicated for me.
You will recognize the bottom hose (which they originally sent me as being correct), it's the same one you have on your car. When I sent them a picture of the correct stampings, they sent me the new upper hose (top one in the pic) no charge with an apology. Their stamping is still not right, but it's a lot closer to original now.
December 8th, 2012, 11:34 PM
#69
Joe, that interior looks fantastic (except for the gas/brake and clutch pedals - hope they're on the replacement list)
Now I feel really bad to tell you this, but Fusick sent you upper hose with the wrong stamping on it. I know because I sent them the correct stamping (from a GM OEM upper rad hose) which they duplicated for me.
You will recognize the bottom hose (which they originally sent me as being correct), it's the same one you have on your car. When I sent them a picture of the correct stampings, they sent me the new upper hose (top one in the pic) no charge with an apology. Their stamping is still not right, but it's a lot closer to original now.
Now I feel really bad to tell you this, but Fusick sent you upper hose with the wrong stamping on it. I know because I sent them the correct stamping (from a GM OEM upper rad hose) which they duplicated for me.
You will recognize the bottom hose (which they originally sent me as being correct), it's the same one you have on your car. When I sent them a picture of the correct stampings, they sent me the new upper hose (top one in the pic) no charge with an apology. Their stamping is still not right, but it's a lot closer to original now.
The gas pedal is a new repro I bought from Fusick, and the pedal covers are also new, but of questionable origin. Maybe the pic is bad - let me know what you suggest. (I havent treated them with anything - they do look a little dull)
December 9th, 2012, 10:04 AM
#73
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When you call them, you should also be prepared to advise them the picture they show in their catalogue shows the markings like the upper one in the pic I posted, not the one you got. You probably bought the hoses within the last couple years? If you need the pic, you can either copy it out of the thread or I can send it to you.
Here's the pic I sent Dave Jackson back in August. It's an OEM upper rad hose still on my car. Note the stampings are quite a bit more precise and sized differently than repops
I also save the Fusick catalogues as .pdf files onto my hard drive so I can do quick references. Even the one from back in 2009 shows the hose with the more correct markings @28.50. Very little change in pricing, but someone really went 'creative' on the stamping to get that different pattern. If you bought the lower hose from them (which I did too, but my rad is 3 core) I'd ask them what they can do for you since their catalogue categorically says it fits "ALL" 71/72's. Didn't have any issues with any of their other hoses, and I did buy the tower clamps like you did too, so I'm hoping my lower rad hose isn't a bust either. Suggest you ask one of the guys down there if they want to buy a lower hose for their ride. BTW I see Fusicks now have their new 47C catalogue out.
Could be just the pics Joe, I know that black parts sometimes show differently depending on what type of light conditions are present. If they look ok to you in normal lighting I wouldn't change them. Especially since you'll probably get the same product from a different vendor? What makes you say they are 'questionable'?
I was really surprised that Steele Rubber Products doesn't have them listed. Supercars Unlimited does show the package http://www.supercarsunlimited.com/Pedal-Pads-i336.aspx . Looks a lot like what you have now though.
Here's the pic I sent Dave Jackson back in August. It's an OEM upper rad hose still on my car. Note the stampings are quite a bit more precise and sized differently than repops
I also save the Fusick catalogues as .pdf files onto my hard drive so I can do quick references. Even the one from back in 2009 shows the hose with the more correct markings @28.50. Very little change in pricing, but someone really went 'creative' on the stamping to get that different pattern. If you bought the lower hose from them (which I did too, but my rad is 3 core) I'd ask them what they can do for you since their catalogue categorically says it fits "ALL" 71/72's. Didn't have any issues with any of their other hoses, and I did buy the tower clamps like you did too, so I'm hoping my lower rad hose isn't a bust either. Suggest you ask one of the guys down there if they want to buy a lower hose for their ride. BTW I see Fusicks now have their new 47C catalogue out.
I was really surprised that Steele Rubber Products doesn't have them listed. Supercars Unlimited does show the package http://www.supercarsunlimited.com/Pedal-Pads-i336.aspx . Looks a lot like what you have now though.
December 10th, 2012, 05:36 PM
#75
Update for today:
Pics of front bumper before install - there's lots of struts on this. The struts that attach to the top center of the bumper use some weird short bumper bolts and also some very thin nuts. I lost one - it's the only place on the car they're used. I put a regular nut on for now hopefully it will not cause an interference issue with the stone sheild when installed.
Front of car shots with grille work installed. Shows those radiator flaps that fit 71-72 455 M/T and W30 only. I had to shim the passenger side radiator to frame bushing up about 1/4 inch to get the front end within spec of height from left to right.
Pics of front bumper before install - there's lots of struts on this. The struts that attach to the top center of the bumper use some weird short bumper bolts and also some very thin nuts. I lost one - it's the only place on the car they're used. I put a regular nut on for now hopefully it will not cause an interference issue with the stone sheild when installed.
Front of car shots with grille work installed. Shows those radiator flaps that fit 71-72 455 M/T and W30 only. I had to shim the passenger side radiator to frame bushing up about 1/4 inch to get the front end within spec of height from left to right.
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December 11th, 2012, 08:45 AM
#77
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Nice work Joe, I'm really interested to see how pre fitting those braces prior to install works on alignment at the stone shield and headlight fillers. Always interested in other peoples approach to this kind of problem solving.
FWIW? Don't worry about the flaps, that's just extra air channelling that should make your 455 run even nicer. Especially down there in the heat belt. I hope you have someone down there helping you with the install and tweaking. From what others have said about alignment of the front bumper it can wear out even the patience of Jobe.
You put in new body mount bushings and rad support bushings and the front end was still that much out of spec? Good info to note since I'm looking at replacing my rad support bushings next year when I pull that puppy for restoration. It's one of the few I know of with almost no corrosion under the battery tray. Lucky me I guess.
How did your conversation with Fusicks go?
FWIW? Don't worry about the flaps, that's just extra air channelling that should make your 455 run even nicer. Especially down there in the heat belt. I hope you have someone down there helping you with the install and tweaking. From what others have said about alignment of the front bumper it can wear out even the patience of Jobe.
You put in new body mount bushings and rad support bushings and the front end was still that much out of spec? Good info to note since I'm looking at replacing my rad support bushings next year when I pull that puppy for restoration. It's one of the few I know of with almost no corrosion under the battery tray. Lucky me I guess.
How did your conversation with Fusicks go?
December 11th, 2012, 08:04 PM
#78
Wow. Coming from you Brian I consider that a high compliment. Since viewing your thread on the 69, I've been inspired to not take any shortcuts in the reassembly process.
December 11th, 2012, 08:19 PM
#79
Nice work Joe, I'm really interested to see how pre fitting those braces prior to install works on alignment at the stone shield and headlight fillers. Always interested in other peoples approach to this kind of problem solving.
FWIW? Don't worry about the flaps, that's just extra air channelling that should make your 455 run even nicer. Especially down there in the heat belt. I hope you have someone down there helping you with the install and tweaking. From what others have said about alignment of the front bumper it can wear out even the patience of Jobe.
You put in new body mount bushings and rad support bushings and the front end was still that much out of spec? Good info to note since I'm looking at replacing my rad support bushings next year when I pull that puppy for restoration. It's one of the few I know of with almost no corrosion under the battery tray. Lucky me I guess.
How did your conversation with Fusicks go?
FWIW? Don't worry about the flaps, that's just extra air channelling that should make your 455 run even nicer. Especially down there in the heat belt. I hope you have someone down there helping you with the install and tweaking. From what others have said about alignment of the front bumper it can wear out even the patience of Jobe.
You put in new body mount bushings and rad support bushings and the front end was still that much out of spec? Good info to note since I'm looking at replacing my rad support bushings next year when I pull that puppy for restoration. It's one of the few I know of with almost no corrosion under the battery tray. Lucky me I guess.
How did your conversation with Fusicks go?
The assembly manual calls to shim the rad. support "as required". Even after shimming, the RH side is still 3/8 of an inch lower than the LH. Might be a little frame twist going on. I'm going to take it to a frame shop when I'm done to check it all out. The LH rear is 3/4 of an inch higher than the RH sideas well.
I found an aftermarket big group 27 battery for the car. Now to see if anyone makes a topper for the big battery.
Will call Fusick tomorrow - need to return a few items and order a new top motor.
Any ideas on my electrical issues thread?
December 17th, 2012, 03:18 PM
#80
A few more pics of work completed in the last week. I'm going to try to fire the motor this Friday, and later next week take to the muffler shop to hang the exhaust. Finally a trip right after New Year's for a new top. Then finally to the painter's for final body panel alignment and polishing.
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