'69 H/O Air Cleaner

[grt05]

What is the rare part of the '69 H/O air cleaner? I believe it is the top part with the flapper, correct? Are the bottoms pieces the same for all 4-barrel '68-'72 air claners and the top makes it unique to the H/O?

Thanks,

Mike

[Jamesbo]

The top can is the rare biggie with the flapper door. They are being repoed for mega bucks. The bottom is the same with a slight variation of five holes drilled to allow water to escape.

Here's the low down.


http://members.cox.net/witrob/scoop/scoop.html

The top can sits down into the bottom of the air cleaner.

[grt05]

Thanks for the reply. Is the bottom piece easy to come by? I am looking through a few catalogs and I don't see where you can purchase the bottom piece.

Thanks,

Mike

[Jamesbo]

I don't recall seeing them in catalogs but I would call them rare. What are you trying to do. I may be able to help you.

[grt05]

Well I have the top flapper piece, but my bottom piece is pretty beat up. I was looking to buy one, but like I said the catalogs don't seem to list them.

I guess I have another questions about the flapper motor/actuator. Is that also a rare piece?

Thanks

[Jamesbo]

I believe I've got a handful of bottoms laying around pm me and I get ya one.

[666 the legend]

..Isnt the FLAPPER PART a FORD Item......??

[joe_padavano]

Originally Posted by 666 the legend

..Isnt the FLAPPER PART a FORD Item......??

DEARBORN! They are Dearborn parts. Just like the HD three speed used in the 442s in some years...

Actually, the flapper door, stamped sheet metal that holds the flapper, and vacuum actuator are all Cobra Jet parts. My actuator even has a Ford logo on it.

[1969Hurst]

Here's a picture I took while visiting Karl Sup a few years ago. He had come by a Cobra Jet air cleaner top.. As you can see the flapper portion is the same as the 69's. If you look at the 69 H/O's, the entire flapper area is sort of oval cut out and welded/attached to the circular upper portion.. as if Hurst/Demmer, somebody in making the 69 H/O's ordered a slew of Cobra Jet uppers and cut out the area to fabricate for the H/O's. Next to it is the 69 H/O top...

Originally Posted by joe_padavano

DEARBORN! They are Dearborn parts. Just like the HD three speed used in the 442s in some years...

Actually, the flapper door, stamped sheet metal that holds the flapper, and vacuum actuator are all Cobra Jet parts. My actuator even has a Ford logo on it.

[1969Hurst]

Another item you may be aware of, the 1969 AMC Hurst Scrambler used the same parts. Attached below is a picture of the Scrambler and they incorporated the portion directly into the hood.

[1969Hurst]

Ok... one more item... I guess I should have fully thought through all of this and put it into one post ..

There is a place called Perogie Enterprises... www.perogie.com that deals in Ford performance parts. I've never dealt with them but if you scroll down to Performance and Specialty and click on the 428 CJ & SCJ you can scroll thru that and they offer the Ford Shaker Vacuum Diaphram New Repro & also a rebuilding service, I would imagine this could be the same peice as our vaccum piece.

[joe_padavano]

Originally Posted by 1969Hurst

... as if Hurst/Demmer, somebody in making the 69 H/O's ordered a slew of Cobra Jet uppers and cut out the area to fabricate for the H/O's. Next to it is the 69 H/O top...

Well, from your two pictures, I'm thinking the oval stamping is unique to the H/O. Note that the CJ upper has two beads that run all the way to the upturned leading edge, whereas the H/O part is completely flat there.

[1969Hurst]

Joe;

Yep, good eye... I've looked at that picture many times and didn't pay attention to the two indented beads...

Originally Posted by joe_padavano

Well, from your two pictures, I'm thinking the oval stamping is unique to the H/O. Note that the CJ upper has two beads that run all the way to the upturned leading edge, whereas the H/O part is completely flat there.